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"2017-10-27 02:00:03"
Kelley Jankowski - 1 of 2 - An Army in Heaven: A Nurse's Account on Death and the Afterlife
\\do people see yes death approaches but we'll have to be like will hell be like later we discuss the deathbed visions of hospice patients as well as those in the critical care setting who have died and then returned to describe their experience on the other side the book is titled an army in heaven and it will change how you view life a most importantly how you view death greetings I'm your host Belfast for gas to listen to the all of our material describe and very tense radio Dinesh special guest this Kelly Dachau ski Kelly was in ... was born in Ohio and raised in a small town in eastern Iowa she is one in children a father was an E. our position and her mother a homemaker she worked in county a critical care from before 2010 began hospice nursing 2000 I'm currently works in an inpatient hospice Kelly is the mother of 6 children and she joins us directly from Maryland well Kelly a welcome to very tests are you I'm good I'm good thank you for having me well it's my pleasure until you have to tell you after reading your book a an army in heaven I was overwhelmed overwhelmed with multiple emotions it it made me realize that we are here just for a short amount of time and how we must not only enjoyed as much as we can but we shouldn't worry so much but most importantly that we should spend time with the people that we love or if we can spend time because circumstances that places far away we should at least communicate how we feel because we never know when our time is up yeah exactly right we all have our our our gainer minute and only got some you can eat and people take time take advantage of time home when they don't realize how precious it is persisted is because most of the patients that I talk to in the near the end of their lives they have a lot I hear over and over and over again I shouldn't I did need to work everyday I did need to pull double when I actually spent more time with my family I should of I wish I could have been you know all those regrets and I wish I did something differently on the surface over and over and over again monster really makes you want to treasure the time that you have here and make good use of it you know this might not be part of the book this will be an interesting this question after so many years working with patients and I see you in hospice you must know some common denominator some things that you keep hearing again and again and again that you should impart upon other people so that they don't repeat the same mistakes if they still have some life ahead of them I'm the things that we hear over and over and over again or what I just relayed and I'd deal here different things that I I should have been closer to god you hear about a lot too and if you can accept me because they are basically ignored in my whole life well and you have to you have to help people through this because you know towards the end of like well we all have to reconcile our our life at the end every every single one of us whether we want to learn ... and the repeating saying that people that people say over and over and over again was in emigrate enough did I do a good enough job and I wish that that done better we we hear that all the time and you wear and I see you nurse for a long time now you're hospice nurse but first what me either one to be a nurse and how and why did you transition from I see you too hospice well every of a physician for a father had a huge impact on me because ... he would come home after work and we'd be sitting around at the dinner table and we keep tell us about different things that happen in different interesting things that happened and I really in my book does so I think the pivotal moment for me was when he took care of it a young boy who was bitten by a rattlesnake then we're talking small town I went in my dad started off in the home you start up in family practice and then went into my human so back in the day when you have insurance you know and insurance issues that we have now come anyway he ends up influencing the man or the little boy too on university of Iowa hospitals because they didn't have the anti venom in this little place my dad was working but then the people that ... brought the boy in also they had children nature that brought the snake in with someone so my dad and and the other doctors that was just taken after the boy was sent off listed take a picture of the snake so this is a 3 of the snake and my dad brought home use holding it up in from the dining room light and you could see that you can see the rib cage and he showed us what was what into her spine and all this and the inside is inside of the snake with Brasilia the skeleton of a rat and a few minutes happening I saw one ho ho ho needed batters only like in first grade per second grade but hearing his stories in the different things that he would do and and so many were common in a beam me up motor vehicle action they be massively bleeding and all this stuff to go through that stayed home and I was hooked and I thought well that's what I want to do when I grow up I want to be in a position where I could help people and ... coming from the medical family arm a cunning he conditions for me and I don't think I was smart enough to be a doctor and you can have your I do wanna put another 12 years in the school so I decided well nursing is good so that's where I got started not and I fell in love with the heart during nursing school coupon fascinating unarmed when my first job they did this initially going to be in Ellen dinners believe it or not but didn't have any openings so that my next choice unless cardiology so I did a year on the floor just trying get my feet wet figured out what I was doing as a brand new nurse and then I went right into on cardio thoracic I see you down a Methodist hospital in Houston Texas and I worked there for a while the next gig critical care 22 10 and they get it got to the point that I just couldn't do anymore ... people would come in with just extensive you repairable I incurable disease processes and the family would be screaming at us you have to do everything well I'm sorry grammar in her nineties and it's the it's the hardest calling it's written all over her body that god is trying to call home ... and I just felt there was no comfort in it there was very little dignity in from being tied down on the bench some hold to and my I realize that my feet favorite patients to care for the ones that were DNR that we were going to do all the ferocious you but then you can I can facilitate their comfort I can help their families through the grieving process mom and I fell in love with that because I felt like I was making more of a dish early impact in their lives not only by caring for them but helping them through the process on the spiritual level to and I fell in love with that man one of anger girl princess if you thought about going in the hospital they really hadn't and then ... story started looking around and then I can I continue critic critical care well I started hospice mom and then I realized very shortly after that that I need you to get a critical care into house all time that's what I did so you went to I guess well it L. India for those who are wondering all these acronyms Ellen de Indian our labor and delivery Indian are do not resuscitate but it went alright once no that's okay that's okay does for the layman out there who may not know but damn in your case for you were from or we're gonna go from one side of the spectrum labor and delivery which is the beginning of life you went all the way to the other side to the end of life yeah it is the most I mean I've been a nurse or for a really long time and it is the most fulfilling job I've ever had as a nurse and all the people will find out I'm a hospice nurse normal package more but how can you do that everyday but they don't see the beautiful side of it on not every gases is horrible mom I've seen absolutely incredibly beautiful death and ... it to me to be able to take a family who comes in in crisis sometimes we get patients into our unit who have only been diagnosed in the ER they ended up with some domino pain and end up going to the emergency room and it did end up getting Scandinavia find out that they're full full of cancer and then they when they're told that the only option is hospice they go from the emergency room and then into our inpatient hospice so you're bringing a patient whose head is still reeling from the diagnosis in here there is a strong but if you are so you have to help not only the patient to that which he got help family and it's we get patients in crisis mode all the time and to be able to work through it just by talking in and none telling them about what to expect and why this is happening or why he's doing this or what symptom young presents itself and why in the medications that we can give to call 9 down and just helping them through it men hugging them when it when the end comes and crying with some and it to me it just it was it's my match and I found it to be my calling and I will fight enjoy going to work everyday I have to say this Kelly based on my own experience and that of countless others if there are angels on this earth I would say nurses must be in that category and not to take credit away from doctors button nurses truly connect with patients in your case even to the person's last breath how do you cope with this on a daily basis ... Ukraine awful lot but you really do I mean I I have are going to work all the time and money EP she changing their personal family there or if the patient doesn't have family or waiting for the family to arrive I I creamed off a lot because I'm not I I don't judge people are not here to judge angry not my job but ... you never know what goes on in people's lives on you never know what suffering they have what what issue states had on their relationship with god on so I pre an awful lot for them I don't quite agree injure my breasts up green check my heart sometimes Opry with them if they ask me to Arnold forced on them on you have to meet people and especially in a hostage situation you have to meet people where they are mom you can't force your beliefs on them you can't do you know Johnson for the police they have or don't have Tiananmen ... so mom I train ocelot Patrick for them I prefer to strength to keep going on because there's a lot of times where you get attached to to patients in some some of on this day rolled through the door and immediately have your heart you know they can look up bitchin smile immediately you're just like 01 of your heart on know when they're passing it's very difficult but you have to keep your head together she got a job to do ... so I used to think that it was from a sign of weakness to crying when the patient died or you know and I would realize that move could happen such rediculous Porter here but that was a young nurse at the time on but I sit down a lot of time general hug my pick my patients family members not cry right with them mom and it's a very party kind of thing to do it's it's a release to eat that you get all those emotions Owsley append them up so I you must I guess I must be re emphasize to you on a daily basis all the emotions you know all the they do not judge all the principles that we think all the time that we may not apply on a daily life will win after reading your book you know we're gonna be discussing a lot of the stories but sometimes you hear of that a patient's situation at that they're alone and then the the family might not want to go see for for many recent you think of how how bad can they be what why are they so mean to this person but then you realize what life they went through and you feel compassion for the family to know now know that there are plenty of nurses that that witness what you have experienced for for years but it doesn't occur to them to to write down the experiences when and why did you decide to document these events ... I started really well I can always why do can always keep a journal on my break down specific patients and their stories that I found fascinating or ones that touched my heart and I just finished not come home from work and go you're winding down after the adrenaline I would writer stories down on I didn't really ha issue really really start in in depth interim assignment on my little patient who had resuscitated the field and came into our unit on on a ventilator need a massive heart attack mommy and experience on where he went to heaven and he met his deceased parents in images and he saw the beautiful vistas of heaven ... and they were so detailed on that I I asked him on halfway through it I I need to write this down would you mind if I reduce down he said absolutely go ahead silent graduate a hook notebook from the nurses station and I mean it was it was a couple hours and then after he got discharged from the hospital we kept in touch and I go over to his house and he didn't I don't think you really realize that every time I was over there quote unquote visiting I was really interviewing a because I wanted to know I wanted you know more and I want you know everything and I knew him for for several years calm before he finally passed but I'm his his story ... had the biggest impact on me and then when I met Alan in ... when I got into hospice he had died on the operating table during open heart surgery and he point blank said I left it I I let in hedonistic lifestyle is all about me and give a crap about anybody else I mean mean mean mean our selfish to the core on and he ended up his judgment was hell mom but thankfully it wasn't permanent and he ended up coming he came back and he told me his story and he when I sat down across my legs and leaned forward and listening to him but you are right this does absolutely Sir when it did the same thing with Alan and Alan was he was one of our reputation some respite patients in hospice intuition they get 5 days a month mom to come into our unit and we take care of them because the family a break especially if they're full time care givers so he was arrested patient and he would come in very frequently and I developed quite a relationship and quite a report with each other I love them to death on but he in talking to his wife he said 20 years ago when that happened this is not the same man this is not the same man that went into surgery it's a completely different man who woke up and completely changed his life and he was he was a dear but they know they had the biggest impact you when you were can I see you correct me if I'm wrong but ... or even in in hospice sometimes you have to resuscitate it if there's not a DNR a do not resuscitate or the family hasn't communicated this or if the patient has an agreed but sometimes you have people who are very very elderly and they you know you have a you have a story that I don't think it's in the book a familiar with the oldest person in their land tell us about that yeah well we we ended up resuscitating a woman who was the oldest living Marylander at times 205 years old and you cannot do chest compressions on someone adult without doing damage earned by but I wish I was cracking read second here and I looked over to cardiologists in a month what what are we doing decisions soon this is insane this is this is not what we should be doing in here point like he said family once every few comics which is 100 the resuscitation efforts didn't go on very long gone and before he called it because she was beyond she was beyond repairs to which he was sold got over it with it's heartbreaking and I I thought long and hard after that I usually when I wanted you to do I want to inflict this kind of pain somebody on their last moments who work like 8 describe before their their own internal your their hands are tied down because you know when I'm pulling out that all the tubes in the gut to Terry where an end up dying on a little later in the unit it's I just couldn't do it anymore I just so I I actively started looking after on that instance with her did this incredible that sometimes you know people want I remember and I don't mean to talk about myself but with money when I lost my first next of kin my father in 1994 I remember how he was in a coma a brain dead he have massive heart attack but they kept resuscitating and again and again and again and I just I was the Ripper representative I had to tell us that that the the the doctor do not resuscitate and those very hard for me but you know after doing all the testing and the water in the ears and the you know what I mean at the needles on the on the th and the F. fingers you have to let go sometimes Duntroon yeah you do it and then people don't did they don't tow use automatic guilt that comes with making a decision like that on to make somebody a do not resuscitate because always in the back of your mind it's like did I do I'm not sure I'm tried that one just right now writing and nominate I don't think you can get away with that I I think it because everybody I've encountered that it had the need to make that decision they all have that that feeling so I warn them about it ahead of time I sit there naked unit it's automatically it happens on may I went through with my father when my father passed and I was his own medical peel away and com when we brought him from Iowa it here to Maryland it yet on prostate cancer that had gone into the bone arm and I got him enrolled and not in the hospital I work at are men we talked about the DNR and my father was adamant he says yeah what all that means a position for he knew it wasn't all but I it it I got it I had to sign the papers and it wasn't difficult even after even after he passed on the different things would enter my mind and I and I ended up taking it to my mom like the parish priest talk to him about it because all of those doubts came through when he said no you don't worry about it decision yet this is normal your ear during a normal thing but what he did was right in the in the whole scheme of things what you did was right so that that helped but even then I was a hospice nurse at the time and I had those feelings so you I can imagine somebody that isn't any sort of medical background what goes through your head when they're forced with a decision one that it's difficult it's very difficult no their skills that not only is our guilt but then you'd have a relative or Tuesday question you after the fact lately yeah mia now let's dive into the book it and I have to say Ifill strained by saying this but I had a a box of Kleenex right in front of me while I was reading the book Kate but you cannot you cannot avoid dad in what I'm saying is true a lot of emotions to go over and a lot of perspective if you know if I was yeah I had a real estate deal that I'm dealing with right now I put it on the side because it is stressing me out this week I thought you know we are so mortal we live here only a short amount of time that can wait wine cheese something physically for never gonna live a little you'll leave this playing with it and enjoy the people around you who but anyway the first case in a lot of these cases don't have anything to do with the afterlife some do some do not correct it right but it's that ended when you can summarize the entire life of what people feel about that person whether good or bad let's begin with Frank together you know since age 6 yeah Frank was the arm Frank was a patient that I had when I worked on in Houston new arms had he had a bad heart disease and ... his little wife they'd met when they were in first grade on and he he had the brain it's hard to explain but I hear them through a lot he's been back and forth from his home state down to Texas because the doctors there were experts in his condition and not hit suffered a lot and it got to the point when stand that he in he point blank told you some target can do more ... and then he opted for comfort care ... and now was back in the early eighties so on where your length of stay in the hospital was a lot longer than it is today so we we basically and took care of a mentally he died on but one night ... his wife was she was struggling a little bit like go in in in the down and hold her hand and talk to her and pray what they're in a different things and ... she reached over and that he knew his bedside stand and she pulled down the big basket full of letters from his home state for people that knew him he would he owned a ... missed a line of ... a small grocery stores and he was a farmer and when he found out if there is anybody in the area because it was a rural community that was in need he would he and deliver them food never asked for anything payment and if people were too proud to say that they needed help and he found about he'd make a move he's mentally very anonymous beat but they are still down there who we can very well on buddy dean aspects of his life she didn't know about until all these letters start according to search you even in it even towards the end of his life when he was it was quite unconscious she learned to think about her husband and she had no and she'd been married to him since I'm a high school Arnie peer to peer people and no historian but why he's first with he was basically the first death ... that I witnessed as a new nurse and ... it was on the step down unit and are but his whole story around it it was just such a touching moment in my life as a nurse and in her life finding out about her husband that she now about and it was just it had its such an impact on me and I carried that around for years and years and years an are that's why dedicated him as the first chapter it took about somebody without an ego that yeah the wife received so many letters of things that she didn't even know he had done yeah also yeah right very humble and all the flowers and what happened to the flowers after he passed well I see I'm seeing it in his room was full mom she asked that we take different flowers too on patient's room who didn't have any hi she said Frankie what I wanted it that way so that's what we did we end we ran out of which we had more flowers than room so then we took him down to some of the other fortune fasteners desertification arm if anybody you know with a loner didn't have flowers and so we distributed them down there to yeah to hear stories like the set and you realize how there's plenty of good people out there that are you may not even know who they are sometimes so great again that they hold judging part in the next story is is one area is the one that sealed the for me regarding not not judging Mabel a cool memory tell us about that I mean Mabel was so a woman that came into our unit had a massive heart attack on she was noncompliant use diabetic hypertensive on she had ... should come in on a ventilator and I thought we had a heck of a time get a hold of her daughter mom but we finally tractor down in October was going on in their mom was going to make it and we want it all she wanted further Rick resuscitative measures moma gone and she said now she says she dies just let her go Anna and I so I ask her said you wanna comments here because not just call me when she died and I thought that was kind of it was kind of cold it in the way she said it and I thought well you know he never know because there's a lot of people that can't stand to see I can't stomach walked seen somebody fall into I get that Ainge I understand that so I just kinda let it go so she ended up passing and ... so I called her daughter and I said you know I'm sorry to tell you but your mom has passed on did you or did you want to come in and she said I'll come up so we were getting her navel spotty ready for our first family to come in and we took a tube that ... the ventilator off and we took it to borrow from mouth and the strap that holds it in and her face was scrunched up and contorted like autumn like a scowl ... enter her brow itself furrowed up in ... we tried everything to get it to cater to relax ... I washed her face a cold backer here I read just adjusted to tell and nothing will get away get get this expression on her face and the nurse that was helping me it Richter out she said I'm out of here I am there's a there's a creepy feeling in this room and there's something wrong with this lady and I'm on here and Michael were not done yet so she buckled in another if you can help me in it she was absolutely right there is a there is a arm it was a feeling in that room that was dark and not something wasn't right ... kinda creepy on so when the daughter came in on I stir Eli took her into the room and we were talking I was asking different questions about her mom apparently her mom was quite nasty she was unkind she'd been married several times on their wrists but a slew of children involved and the youngest one Han had committed suicide he had broken away from the the family got away from his mother basically is what what we found out got involved in gangs down in the inner city and nam when I ended up I don't know if I told it to it's as I said in the book that he committed suicide or if you know you did not you said he had this he was killed maybe perhaps you're protecting that but yeah it was it because the child that the man she had a child with laughter right within our neighbor I believe and he resembled a lot to the father and she to him to call the brown I right she got the brunt of her arm anger and as she was on ridiculously cruel to the child not only on emotionally and in and physically but I like it spiritually never gonna mountaineers thing you know you should never been born and it it it was on and on and on and on and on so I'm listening to this woman just spew all of the nasty things about her mother and it broke my heart because I thought no she didn't looking at the woman's face and hearing the life story he's he you could kind of see it ... correlation almost but in the end and I said any civil on if any other if family members can a command and I should turn around she said no and she grabbed up her person she says nobody wants to come in she was you do whatever you want with the body not one inch walked out of the unit I thought well but you know you're looking at you're looking at a culmination of years and years and years and years and years of peace mom at the hands of this woman lying in the bed and you know like you said you got to meet people where they are you can't judge me you he I I was thankful that she was able to vent and let go with that to certain extent on me mom died it it was heartbreaking to hear of the situation that that whole family found themselves and on the concert of the patient it is heartbreaking so you never know you never know what ... book crush you never know across people that have carried their whole life exactly you never know like like in their supporters one quote that says I'm don't judge her because you don't know what storm I've asked her to walk through the you know and it coming from god you know god saying that to you and it's very very true because you then looks are deceiving to you see people that you think are unite their wealthy in there this letter that ma heartless cold a stone and you get a little homeless man in there who has nothing but it is the most genuine come passionate gentle human being ever meet so you know you just you can't you can't judge on appearances either so assist us not to judge also you know I sometimes wonder I know this conflicts I know you're a devout Catholic I grew up a Catholic and some people just don't believe in reincarnation and I sometimes wonder if we're here to learn a lesson and then perhaps we come back or maybe we go somewhere else but these people like him Mabel know who had such a hard life and again I'm not even going to touch that lady because do you know what she went through as a child yeah exact right and there are other stories that are similar to that I have eventually will will will discuss some of them but did you were you able to talk to Mabel at all to getting a glimpse of her life and her own now side of the story well known but by the time she came to us he was home on a ventilator people can't talk when they're on a ventilator because you know when she was sedated because you can't you have to let the heart rest so you can have people fighting and everything when there had been the hardest going through you know had a heart attack you have to rest my heart so and you gotta keep them you gotta keep the machines entered caressed the hard knocks you Nader and different things like that so she was sedated on to a certain extent bomb but we we learned very quickly that this was more than the sedation we ended up cutting off the the ... IV state which the data and she never did wake up well yeah this question just popped in my mind right now did you have any experiences with patients that came to hospice and miraculously they got better and they were left hospice oh yeah we we we we have to relate to graduate yeah a graduate how yeah I mean it's not that we did that that they diseases curing but it almost like on sometimes it'll just slow down to the point that they they start feeling better though 30 prank and look at their strength back moment doesn't mean that the disease is gone ... it's just that sometimes I think I get similar reprieve maybe it's got something more for them to do or so hospice is not the exit door in other words not 100 percent you know a lot of people think that that that hospice okay that's the end and you're just gonna give me drugs and I'm gonna die the slush all that is not at all there's a lot of misconceptions about hostage and what we actually do on-again he came from Iowa he called me up because I can't do it anymore my mom has very bad dementia mom he said I can barely take care myself much like myself and your mom so we flew in from me and him mom from Maryland to or from Iowa to Maryland on when he got to my house he was white as a sheet he had lost probably 2030 pounds he couldn't bear you could walk up the stairs without help is vomiting it was if you could meet was terrible he got there on a Sunday we have hostas involved on Monday rendez switches medicines around they put him on what they call a Sentinel patch to control pain without having to go through the gut because the medicines they were given him or Jamaican sick within 6 weeks my dad was driving again had put weight on him he was up and walking around he's going to mass every day I own believable and even he couldn't believe it he said I I thought coming here that I can be dead within 6 weeks a look I'm Drivin and like if they had you know we get your symptoms under control which pain managed and ... you're able to to continue you know until god called you home ... hospice is really good about managing symptoms that that they come up with different disease processes ... I've never met very few people that they couldn't get symptoms under control so what hospice then does is it not sometimes will prolong life if they've actually done studies where we're getting hospice involved will prolong your life because your pain is better managed so your quality of life and improves dramatically sometimes like in case my father comment he didn't die then until the debt died January 27 among one year so there's a lot of misconceptions lot of people think that that even when they come into our inpatient unit they think on just this is the death house I'm just gonna come in here dynamite known which forget your symptoms under control we're gonna get you on the right recipe of medicine unlearn get you home and some believable the amount of people that they were that they come in and they think this is an I'm I'm right gone and we get there their pain and their knowledge in it different things under control ending T. they start eating again in the global strength back we gonna back because of one of them come in and they're like I don't die here on a tight homo that's our goal you know if if that's your goal to go back home to die to die at home and that's our goal sometimes we can do it sometimes we can't but the majority of the times we get him back home would it be safe to say that the majority of the people who go into hospice truly think well this is it but then all of sudden they get better and they go back home maybe the last I don't know months maybe even years yeah do their attitudes change once they get out of there and think well I didn't die yeah yeah yeah absolutely absolutely no come back and read it anything now and and the arrow never forget one man who who came in and that was his attitude on I'm here to die and never gonna get better and you know I'm just a bit then we're like well we're just you know you can treat medicine will control that vomiting and we have to get trained and control which it took a few days we got him on the right recipe Armenians are coming back several times for respite and he he said you know I've told everybody in my church and I told all my neighbors you know hospices or you think it is look at me her yeah he was or he was our own best advocate out there in the public so and I'm so glad that people like you and and hospice exists for and you know I have another radio show some people may think that I'm against allopathic medicine and I'm not you know I have questions about the chronic disease and the fact that they say that a lot of things are incurable when it comes to these this is so necessary and the compassion that you will show is used I'm so glad to to be speak with somebody like you today but on the first 2 stories there were no mentioning of the afterlife but on this third one about a man named Robert he actually saw the tunnel and the light please tells mark no no and he came in he was on a younger man in the electric lead he wasn't on actually he was a professor and he would later IT man and he led a very sedentary electricity that neat computer all day long he came in with a massive heart attack bombs and his heart rhythm was getting all screwed up and he would just hurry would go from the eighties and nineties down into the 20 ... asses her it would drop on the he will get what they call vagal and if you get really sweaty get very nauseated many struck vomit and then we'd be been given medicine to try and get the heart rate back up and the need wake up he said he stood up in the bed once Hari pick back up anything he looked at me and any kind of hurry negroes is enormous hallucinate when you're having a hard time with her husband I didn't win a war you what's going on so I was pouring through this tunnel look and this happened several times in the nurse that was there were helping me with him we will look natural distrust creaking because we get a heart rate up and stay there for a little bit unhurried circuit get the night going get the medicines and ending at night he started vomiting lay back and pass out we get it was it was one of the strangest incidents I've had the is a cardiac nurse but we ended up having to put a pacemaker in American but in taking care him after we get the Nick he went down for had an angioplasty gotten vessels opened up to get a permanent pacemaker in I was talking to him when he came back into our unit and so I know you people thought I was crazy and I said well tell me tell me more about what what happened announcer he described that he was flying through this tunnel that was a sparkling kind of tunnel and these little lights would go with them and some would you know go past him and he said the closer that I got to the flight he said it it was it was pulsating in and in a beautiful warm golden light that the closer he got to it the more love that he felt and them more he wanted to get towards satellite but then as he got closer he kind of held back in because the real time not good not I'm not I'm not worthy to go any closer ... and right before he would get of the light and he would like up and we go back and forth and back and forth like this that every time he would go then he we get closer and closer ... right in the realization when he came back for good was that I've I've got it changed my life and I've got to get closer to god and I've got you are I've got it I've got to change something because I didn't realize how much god loved me until the instantaneous you never really font face to face but she knew that he knew what that love was and he knew that he had to be a better man than it was he was fascinating on but now that was him I hope I don't sound insensitive them with this question but when someone experiences the tunnel but the warm golden light in the at the end of the tunnel the city you know they're mentioned by many people who experience the near death experience as someone who works with science and of course I know your dog Catholic but do you think this might be a defense mechanism from our body when oxygen stops region our brain we I see the robbers said hallucinate no I don't and I'll tell you why because when people experience this there's something inside them that get touched in chains Armitage's chemical reaction ... or an oxy affirmed not enough oxygen to the brain I would it would it have that deep of an impact on people I don't think it would I just don't think I would ... because so many people that experiences yes anybody that has had a near death experience even if they're just floating you're looking down on their body on what they feel in that moment is the most incredible piece and the most incredible love and feelings of of okay goodness arm and they're different after that date they absolutely have no fear of death after that which to me I've I have always found fascinating I think it it's human nature to to have a certain amount of fear of death kind of the fear of the unknown even if you're a a believer in you know heaven and hell Jesus and god what about and there's a certain fear of well what's going to be like for me on the decision but these people who've experienced any any part of this mom their fear of death is completely gone to me that that's an impact that I just don't think is from on a lack of oxygen or chemical changes that's fine made a a thing to say saying that because so many people share the same come on now he's the tunnel but the the light and then there's this entity at the end of the town call it what you wish folks but it is always saying you're ready are you not ready wouldn't know what I think what determines sometimes because there's a story we gonna discuss later where the person seem to be all of a sudden got better brought the whole family but we'll discuss all the data on a given up yet now this is another one where you shouldn't judge people Jessica drug and child abuse this is a very sad story tells more on interpreter was limiting ... 1819 years old when she came into our unit she was there a homeless girl she's an IV drug user ... should come in because she was septic which is ... a bacterial infection in the blood they can be very dangerous if it'd be bill be deadly if it's not treated on that her because of infection was ... infected album track pointer nerd injection lines from where she was injecting IV heroin mom and her arm which inflames shit huge amount of cellulitis is an inflammatory process that happens on the key issues around that time main infection and then that infection then gets into the blood don't drop your heart rate in order drop your blood pressure in it just because of the whole host of other issues where she came and and ... she was killed them out known she'd she was pale she was and burning up with fever and and shivering and though she had no ID access there were no veins in her arms that we could use at all why the yeah yeah not fun and I could get anybody I could stick out IV in anybody America there was nothing ... so the surgeons had opted to put in a central line which is a big bore catheter ... IV in it goes in there and outside of the necromancer pleading right underneath collarbone there and now they opted to put a central line in because we had to give grandparents you had collection you know we had to get the antibiotics onboard sooner rather than later so big opted to do that in the unit ma when she got there so Kelberg undersold in asserting that surgical resident came up and we're putting a liner in in order to do it you have to you have to put a sterile drape an arm over the area you have to have a sterile field so she was laying flat and ... I was on her left side in the search was on her right side and so the minute that he put in great under sterile drape while he was struck starting them to set up on part of it fell over her face and she thought she granted each current at the resonance he sat up and then she starts screaming I'm sure what that hacker you doing I told you I told you 1000000 times don't put anything over my face and we both looked at it the surgeon I looked at each other like we are going to be a little overkill reaction but so I I told Eric that I went on another great but as explain to her what was going on I said I'm gonna hold to treat but over here and you just concentrate on me when you talk to me while he's doing this it'll take your mind off of it the great won't be about your face and and I'll be right here with you finished which finally agreed so we were he started the procedure I'm holding up the great concern in the chair next to the bed and non Celtic to get her mind off of it you know that that Nova Kaine and everything that was happening I could tell me what tell me about what what brought you in here today and tell me tell me what's going on with you and number 2 she proceeded to tell me basically her her life story home when she she was initially telling me that she shouldn't have a place to live and that she she's out on the streets and she'd been there our heroine abuser most of her life mom and that she hung out with this this young guy that would keep the bombs away former so they were like friends in ages buddy around together but they're both addicts so anyway and talking to her I Saddam when did you start using heroin first each because well wasn't my choice and not isolated would mean was it your choice and so she said that her mother her mother and father were both addicts her father had died of in a drug overdose when she was very very young and her mother was left alone in an addict and ... in order to sporty stuff shoes to prostitute herself and boom what happened one night was in just was only years old when this happened ... there's a bunch people at the at the house in room one of her mother's quote unquote gandules whatever you you want to call it up came into her bedroom and not put a pillow over facing Reaktor at 8 years old and now it is she said that she found her mother walked in and and found out what was going on certain screaming at the guy and you just need more interest Pakistanis to start trying $0 bills that are and she said I shut my mother up she closed the door and like I I was dumbfounded maybe I'm I I thought to myself how naive reminds us that this kind of stuff goes on I never heard anything so horrific and looked in my makes makes many of us feel so innocent really yeah on my gosh so who are the rule do you count did you tell anybody what about school she never been to school should should never been to school on her mother kept her basically inside she said and and not she looks so she found a much easier way for her to earn a lot more money yeah she said she she picked her out to to the different guys who were interested in a little girl and and I said they did you screen did you can you buy me and she said she narrow well I tried and she said and then one night my mother print tourniquet on merman injected me and hold it I can hold it your mother injected you with what heroin and she said yeah and if this happened over and over and over again and so she got a kick and scream no couldn't she green things he's lucky to be alive her mother could easily overdosed jurors in 8910 year old kid ... you but you know heroin is unbelievably addicting and so this poor thing he just that was her springboard into life it was how on earth can you recover from something like that menjerit basically a drug addict from the time we can use all whatever happened took to her the mother after what well she said that 11 day she went out to strict trash up time and ... actually locked the door behind her mother was passed down on the couch and she certain people driving by song you know young the straggling filthy girl standing outside ... not properly dressed for winter time and they called the police and then she was in foster care gene her she went she ran away from foster home after foster home after foster home because he said nobody really ever wanted me she said they they made it very clear I was to monitor them nobody ever loved me no but nobody really ever left me I didn't take her to the hospital that first night when she was locked out and but the fun of the hospital is so yeah yeah update they prosecuted the mother they've found that would go and I actually said I asked her what happened to your mom and you did you did they ever find any of the guys and she said they found some of them not all of them but you know sums better than nothing no not yet they prosecuted the mother and ... try Astor said well I do you see your mother now if she she said her mother wasn't she had aids her mother did ... enchanted what they call aids dementia and not so they ... prettier in this this like home for patients like that she said I want to see here one day Tenda she'll ever see her yet now she said I recognized her immediately she said no I didn't wanna walk up currency here my name is Jessica so I just stared at her and I she said that she walked over to her and in la wanted to bum a cigarette judge Jessica said she agrees cigarette machine with lit cigarette foreign she's just staring at her she never said a word to her when she got in and I said I can universe anything to her and she said she's getting what she deserves he turned 8 scan which he deserves it was just it was that I mean I had to leave the room several times because I was crying on then she looked over at me and she said well what the hell you Balin for did not do you but all I kept thinking of with my children you know and I cried softly alright I keep thinking to myself I I have children at died 6 and we have 6 children I could imagine doing anything like that to them and hear this poor girl is left just who led a life just of hell from day one it was just I was heartbreaking and that's just a part like and that's the part where you think alright should we judge the mother what if the mother went through a similar situation we don't know it exactly exactly yeah it's just it's you know they they see your man's inhumanity to man I I is I mean whatever happened to to the young girl to the 18 year old why I called it a holding area social work control issues I can get her any any for help but on she ended up transferring out of our unit and then are we look at such a contract couldn't find after that and you know you as a nurse in Austin he can't go into other people's charts look mom find out where they went just not you know it but they have a lot of stuff like that alright never tractor down but you know I don't know if she survived I know I do know she got discharged home because I'd know the nurse ... who is working on the floor that she in honor step down unit and she did get discharged but you know you can tell me where all and I mean I knew she couldn't I don't know why our school in New York with the answer was going to be but it just it was so heartbreaking and I I felt so bad for her and I just I would love to get in touch but yeah I never saw her former after that I also wonder what happened to work Gracie she was unable to let go this happens to a lot of people is it because the I will discuss the store in a moment people who cannot let go are they too afraid to die well what with greasy it with her husband who could learn braille then ... need not so much that he was afraid of her and I think some people think they're so did they don't they don't want that pain bigger just wanted him to come here when somebody dies it's a it's a hard thing to deal with when somebody dies a Salada heart wrenching agony because into an inning when you're little over your life mom he just he just couldn't page couldn't let her go but he needed he needed somebody to kind of take the ... double the double ball Bob noted that the bull by the horns to them and ... say put your your wife is dying honey and there's nothing we can do and ... and none of the drugs that we were giving her were helping on her blood pressure was solo she had metastatic stage 4 cancer this in anything else yeah sure bowel obstruction from tumors growing in the in the colon ... and she looked like she was 10 months pregnant she's a tiny little things with interest rates maybe 411 ... panda just skin and bones just skin and bones and issued stomach into jaundice and she was it was it was so sad he he was just beside himself because he knew what he boil down to reach you know or make that decision to stop so we kind of had to take the decision away from him and shake in other decisions Basil examining be made for you whether you know because god is going to make the decision in the end you know because nothing there's nothing we can do to keep a person alive you can you can show that many tubes and people as you want although when the master because you're in a darn thing we can do random so we just kind of had to do which kinda had talking through it and say mom it's her time minister time so instead of continuing with this ma aggressive her row it means mom we're just gonna we're just gonna let the good lord colony called American going there and jump on her chest and shocker and you know put your full of more medications and bring her ribs over doing chest compressions we're just going to let you know we're not going to take anything away because that was his big thing I I I can't make that decision I can't I can't remove any to and I said that's fine we're just not going to add any Emerson I can increase the drapes were just gonna we're just gonna let her be I'm gonna give it a little medicine to help Ripper even and and get that kind of calm down and then I took him back into the room after we're done talking to him and I said I'm up next to her to her bed and I lowered the side rail so that he could hold her hand and then he and I talked on offer the whole 90 told me all about their life together you know it was it was heart wrenching to watch because I told them that nam he needed to give her permission to and people people need to know that that people need permission to to die ... I've seen it time and time and time again where are my husband won't die because that he knows the wife is there any arrow iPhone directional doesn't can't handle it or in price person on on on and until they get their permission that it's going to be okay it's okay for you to go I'm going to be fine then they can like go it's amazing it's amazing how that happens I've seen it happen time and time again and that's what eventually what happened with him he he finally realized that this is what he needed to do so I set him up and he he but I don I've got the machines out of his way and he put his his arm underneath her her neck and shoulders and he just he cuddled her any Chester and I close a close to our straightened from India Doug cubicle on I shut the glass doors and let them have their time alone once that was done was to give her permission you could just see the weight being lifted off of him and then he sat down and spent the rest of the night was there and she died that morning then around 7:00 in the morning that when somebody is in a coma I can see how the decision lies with somebody from the family direct family but if somebody comes back and forth in them back from come being conscious to not unconscious and the say Hey I don't want you to resuscitate me again can they have can they make that decision themselves yeah I think they did it a lot of things going are involved in men on making that decision you have to be have to move personally intervened milling company have no does to grab the latest vision that you're making on in a situation like that I'm in and with a family member state saying you need to you need keep resuscitating him and then the family coming ... that patient coming back and saying I'm done don't do this to in me anymore idol I don't know if they exactly would all depend on the patient in the situation in the family members you know I'm sure that they probably could have but if it's if it's like Robert who's going back and forth and back and forth like little complete with a motion that he would've listened to treatment I can't speak for the physicians either then a quick parenthesis here and just thinking when it comes to man or woman I think it's much much worse when the man stays for some reason made the woman women seem to be more social to have friends most of whom the man seems to be I am private I'm gonna do it on my own blabla I recently I have an aunt that passed away a few web weeks ago and the husband was 12 years older than her he's 90 I he thought 01 day I'll die you know but you would be taking care of well he had to take care of her she had Alzheimer's for a couple of years and now he just doesn't want to continue living it do you see that coming denominator when the man is the 1 who survives but that the wife absolutely arm I will never forget this isn't in the book but I'll never forget we admitted a woman entered the I'm impatient hospice unit Thursday she died on Friday we admitted her husband on Saturday and he died on Sunday and actually I think they've done a study I can't I can't hold the study but I think they did a study that I think it's an Englander from like that where the ... the average survival rate of a spouse knows history leader spouses who have been married for extended period of time I think the average was 18 months that did the surviving spouse live on an average that's where the men are sore both either either or either over but most of the time I think I we have a women have a more longevity than men do on an average you know we have much more women alive into old age than we do man no what I see that as a nurse told me why is because women tend to go to the doctor for me but who knows who knows ... work work people women are strong though you know where we have babies and we greater someone we could totally clean and we work outside the home women are very strong ... but no no but I I see a lot of I would feel a lot of spouses room Lewis the will to live when when they're ... when their husbands die ... especially when they've been married 405060 years 70 years it's it's it's like in I had one lady explained to me she said half of temple instead half of me just died how how can I go on when half of me is and then she told me she says I've known him longer than I've known anybody in my life all of my brothers and sisters to get my parents are dead on you know I I've known him longer than I have my own children 1000000 do without and it's heartbreaking because I've never been in that situation streets it's very hard to and I tend to really be able to relate what that feels like it's got to be I think about it a lot the older that I get some beer and one day I'm gonna be there or my house that's going to be there and how much can handle that I don't like to think about it on but I I hear it so much that that it's hard to go on so we get a we get them involved with on bereavement groups and briefly counseling and stuff and most people are really talented and and know exactly how to help people in that situation much more than on any of us the true learning Phyllis because you know 3 through like you walk the walk it's a very hard and we try to empathize with people and be compassionate to like it actually try and put your feet no shoes it's very difficult I think a lot of this year I'm dying for example I think I don't fear dying at all what I fear is leaving my love then it will often be it behind I think that's probably one of the biggest fears most people have yeah yeah I think my listening be fine also if the children well all my kids are older now yeah but I think it's true I mean we see we see people who are are leaving small children behind that and it yeah now all I had a man it does say it's yours done though see this story because we have to take a one and only break off and I know where you are you talking about the and the one who had many children and the day of the funeral home she found out she was pregnant what was that's what I use that never mind that we don't look now is another story but anyway tell a story when we come back how can people buy the book an army in heaven I am it's on ... Amazon and Google play I think Kendall mom spirit daily.com ... has it in his book store when I think of you if you type in Google an army in heaven bomb it'll come up so it's everywhere that we have a link on our website too and folks are going to tell you when you've when you buy the book and even enjoyed all the stories try to read it there any private place unless you don't mind cried in front of people and by the way men cry it doesn't matter man cried I cried your son cried when he read the book it happens we all have a heart and we have plenty of more story to discuss all especially those who see the other side we have plenty of those stories coming up when we come back and this is dedicated to a lot of our listeners who have lost someone lately I know who you are I cannot name all the names because I be talking for a long time but you know who you are and so that we can be prepared for that time in the future that we are all going to leave this plane and we shouldn't be in fear by listening to the stories hopefully this is going to give us some hope that when the time comes we all gonna be prepared this is no Fabregas my special guest today's is Kelly 10 kowski and the book an army in heaven much more to discuss when we come back business Methodist and you're listening to veritas thank you for listening to the first part of this very important interview listen to the rest all of our archive material good in the member section or subscribe at their age //
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Richard Stratton | Kingpin: Prisoner of the War on Drugs
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Jimmy Church - A Life in Pursuit of the Truth
\\and tonight we depart from the traditional interviews sometimes we receive messages asking me to share with what I've learned so far doing this show and since everything is about I guess I get a chance to do that unless appear in another program recently I had the privilege and a pleasure I've been interviewed by someone of the highest caliber in the field of media broadcasting I was interviewed twice this we thinks I'm a host Bellefonte gas to listen to tonight's full interview and all of our material past present and future scribe and very tense radio .com in a special guests is none other than chi church Jim is a radio and television host for the game changer network premier and I heart radio and the church is the host of fade to black Denise also a guest cohost on coast to coast AM with George Noory and co stars on history channel's anger one the UFO files at the time travel conspiracy show time beings is also the star and host for a brand new series on history Danny the features fade to black that will premiere in the fall of 2017 growing up George was influenced by his mother who was an avid reader of Edgar Cayce and Eric fun down again she had an open mind for all things paranormal and his father was the bandleader for the army band musician this outlook on the world childhood distill what happens every time Jimmy is on the air is taking over night talk radio and network television into the future with a new generation of listeners who all want an answer what is the truth but to tell us is truth directly from the city of angels off the Pacific Ocean I'm delighted to welcome the one and only Jimmy church hello Jimmy welcome to very tests are you it is an honor Mel thank you so much I'm honored and privileged first of all let me thank you once again for inviting me on to your radio program fade to black as well as coast to coast AM had a terrific time and received a lot of great feedback so I hope we can do the same tonight but in reverse it's my turn to take an xray our view and I say extra because sometimes I listeners don't know that much about us so let's open that window so we can all learn more about what's inside Jimmy turned let's begin with your attorney tell us about your childhood and what motivated you to be who you are today while I am thank you again ... Mel this is side this is exciting for me and I'm gonna throw the exact same accolade right back at you because it is rarer for my audience to hear from another show host and and what makes them tick you been doing this for a long time and and you've got a very large audience of a dedicated audience and they don't get to hear about you and I do the exact same thing I am I am doing the interview and the audience is never here for Mel fabric gas right they're not here for Jimmy church they're here for the gas right and right and and that's our job and it is so to reverse that and for me listening to you for so many years to get inside of your head was a treat for my audience because we share the same audience and they got to hear your story and your side of things and I found it completely fascinating and the other thing is this when you have host and host on this show together it's it it's a bonafide treat for both host if it's like a night off it away but you know there's so much information that comes out of it if there is a lot of information that you never get to share and for me to to ask those questions of you that I've always wondered about you and your background that the interesting thing about veritatis is that you keep it about the gas right so you're the mystery you're the mystery and it was great to have you on and then to bring you want to coast because the coast audience which everybody knows is is quite vast in is in the millions but they all listen and now you know and for them to to hear your story in your side of things and what got you here is is just a a fantastic experience for everybody now that being said back to me ... I what I I grew up an army brat and my father was in the army band he was the band leader of various army bands around the world so that meant a couple of things one of the family was pulling up stakes every 3 years and and moving to another city another state or another country there's that aspect but he was a musician right he didn't fire a gun you know he was never in Vietnam or anything like that he added he played an instrument of many of them and he was ... a bandleader so he was the guy with the baton right it is the the the parades of the for the July parades my dad was the guy out in front leading the band marching so with the baton and which means he was a pretty cool guy he's still a he's still alive a instill a musician to this day but it so they mad as musicians my mother and father in Michigan so that means my mom was pretty cool too and musicians that get together and start a family and that's was the early part of my experience of my childhood now all that going the way that it was your egg you're exposed to the military industrial complex and and and the military family life sure I lived all of that and I wouldn't trade that in for anything was a great experience but on the other side my mom it is specially now ... looking back knowing what I know now at my age I'm 53 I'll be 54 in a couple of days and ... looking back with my knowledge my mom was a trip she was in to all of those things that we talk about today and I watched her do a lot of these things and it taught me so many things that the world isn't what it seems and I get that part of it now but she was also in her twenties right if I'm 5 years old looking at my mom back then in 1968 my mom is 25262728 years old she's a she's a kid and she was doing Luigi board in the kitchen until all hours of the morning with my and see who is no longer with us and drinking coffee and chain smoking cigarettes and and talking about all of these supernatural in esoteric things that at that age of 5 or 6 in Savin it you really start to understand that your mom is is a little bit different that's the first thing but she loved us that's the second thing but the third thing that was the most important for me was her ghostwriting her her automatic writing that she did the books on the bookshelf of hundreds of Edgar Cayce books and I was barely old enough to read but I could read Edgar Cayce right and I would see these these books Michael who is Edgar Cayce we have nothing but that occurred see books of the house and and then go out you know Eric by Danny cannon and those other things that were starting to accumulate and I started to read those books at a very very young age and it just exposed Timmy out what was going on now the other part ... that was pretty fascinating and I was into all of those shows in the late sixties early seventies like you a follower space 1999 and I was into those series and the space race was going on so just like every young kid in America special every boy in America at that time you had your favorite astronaut yet your favorite rock aged you favor capsule you were drawing pictures and and moon bases and it just fascinated with everything you know flying cars and and I was into all of that and I remember going to the library it this was in the fourth grade so this would have been like 19711972 I go to the library I with my friend John Dubrava and we go and look up your foes in the library the UFO section there was a couple of books and we grabbed a an encyclopedia it and looked up UFO and and there's high neck and project blue book and his famous photograph with you know his glasses and a bad lives read it yes yes yes yes and I started to really really jump in to the subject at a very very young age and I never let it go so my research that I ate reveal on the show this is something that I didn't start studying 10 years ago or 20 years ago this goes back to my very foundation and I've always been into it and I I didn't know Mel this is what was strange ... they're made to be very direct with us I was like a lot of other ufologists ... ... home researchers have you well in that I kept my libraries secret I did talk to my friends about UFOs I had stacks and stacks of video tapes and magazines and books and I read everything and collected but I never talk to my friends about it and I was uncomfortable with that and I think everybody keeps you know it may live 2 lives you know you have something else that you do and you keep it private and you enjoyed what that's what I was forced into I was in the music business and I was into sports and I was you know my friends we would talk about other things but I had this hidden self that I didn't reveal and it was when I sed started to get into broadcasting and I had to make a few career choices I'm I had graduated of from broadcasting school and we decided to go into sports and the reason why I made that conscious decision was because I thought it was an easy Avenue to get into but what I really wanted to do is what I'm doing now I did know how to cross those boundaries and at that time you know you had coast to coast ... art bell was still on the air no so was George Aiken with are they were doing their thing and and all of that is broadcast right here in my neighborhood okay when I broadcast from for coast to coast it's right down the street from my house and at the time when I was doing all of these things and and studying coast to coast literally Mao was across the street from my condo in Sherman oaks right there I could walk out of my patio and look at the co studio well yeah and and I would listen to it every night I just thought how how can I would go my way into this world and it took years ... it wasn't like planned but you you focus on your own reality right that's what I want to do I'm going to prep myself for this some day it'll happen I just gotta let it ride out and let the synchronicity is played out and that's exactly are either oddly enough that's exactly what happened ... we decided to ... started internet radio station this is back in 2008 and ... realizes those names yet there was no internet radio back and that's when I started to 8 right there it just wasn't out there so we thought let's get out let's try to break down some walls here and and will ... because at that time 2008 was the big ... economic crash yeah right the mortgage banking and I'm graduating from school and there was nobody hiring anywhere die everybody was cutting back advertising out of Detroit in the cars in and everything that advertised on sports radio or radio in general and in the television was affected by this too budgets were cut back the bailouts hadn't started yet and everybody was panicking so here I am ready to jump into radio couldn't get hired so we thought let's just do it ourselves so we did other classic movie you know without the credit cards ... bill does studio ... in our living room and and just went for broke and things just took off it actually worked we we didn't have a model because there is there's no internet internet radio or networks are ways to do this but I have an audio background from the music business and and I've just figured out a way to build a website get the audio and and get it going and we pulled it off and ... eventually ... I this is kind of jumping forward ... to your question but eventually are are decided ... to make a comeback and when he did that come back which was I'm gonna guess here I think it was around 2013 ... on Sirius XM and that lasted for about 6 weeks and then he quit but when he quit I thought this is this we're gonna make a change I and so about 6 weeks prior 2 are quitting I'd went to my wife and I said look Rita ... I want to do another type of show and I want to cover everything yeah I will still do sports but I would like to do conspiracy do UFOs and and all these things that I love in Egypt and and near death experiences and I am quite all things supernatural and combine everything together and we're going to college in the church against the world and he was like ha okay well if it'll make you happy so we went and did and you know broadcast mail you know what's involved here we had to I decided to website new logo's ... new promos new spots new drops new audio bringing in voiceover guys writing everything out doing all of that production and we now have a day and we are ready to go I'm ready to start booking gassed and do this thing called Jimmy church against the world were ready to launch and then art quit and that was out of the week that our equipment back the day that he quit ... I'd I contacted ... dark matter and I said Hey we have the show when we were ready to go and what surprised me was that he said Thursday I could do was lie loses out as Sunday afternoon and I said are you sure sure Thursday let's go and that's what happened in the and that's how it all went down we we made the change ... and that's when redistributed while to be church against the world are quite frankly socks and we need a we need a new name I was like we've got everything clapped so in a matter of about 2004 hours she came in and she said we're gonna call show fade to black I was like well okay we got that out of the way cool whatever we do with our wives yes yes yes yes and age she was answering she was giving me the ball the direct orders and the answers to things that for me I could just stop thinking about like the name of the show is as critical as that is she made the decision I was able to move on okay now it's called fade to black now a star production get these get the spots cut ... and we got we got it done and and we ended up ... airing on Thursday and I think we started with one or 2 days a week and and Keith us said okay let's do let's go from 2 to 3 let's go from 3 to 4 let's do it after a couple of months list to 5 days and I said no I just I just can't do it and ... let's let's just stay with 4 days and so we shifted things Monday through Thursday and and that lasted ... over with Keith and an art I think for about a year maybe a year 0.5 we were over there and it was a great great ride ... ended allow this to expose things out there and kind of get our feet wet with how we wanted the show to be done it dealt with the get it dialed in and died now the incident the short in the and answer to everything is during this time I which I didn't know ... George nori was listening to fade to black I had no clue I did not none none at all and one night I had Jason Martell on the show and we're doing our thing and before the broadcast I said to Jason I said you know what let's don't take phone calls tonight let's just talk for 2:00 hours and he's like yeah let's do it right no interruptions okay cool so we had agreed to that before the show about an hour into the broadcast I started getting these phone calls from the same phone number and it's a local phone number I can see it and its local and it's coming in coming and coming and coming in hanging up coming in and it happened about 10 times and I said to Jason live on the air said a chase I keep getting this phone call coming as somebody wants to talk to you and take a phone call yeah okay let's do it I pick it up Hyatt's fade to black guy who's calling Jimmy this is George and I said excuse me yeah this is George nori your son just like George yeah and I said ... aw come on you know seriously and I do think it was him and Jason just know Jimmy as you can go back and listen to the broadcast pretty funny days ago has no Jimmy that is George and George was a day so now are you may start talking and George said on the air is a Jimmy I'm a fan I listen to the show every night we're going on the air here at 10:00 it's 8:00 and who am I listening to I'm listening to you would fade to black it's a great show and I was like wow and about a month I mean can you imagine Mel right in our this this is pretty pretty cool and about a month later ... we were at a conference and George ... was there we we met for the first time and he literally in front of cameras and people in his fans ... out on this balcony there's probably of a couple 0 people there I'm sure ... George said are Jimmy I would like to invite you wanna be a host over coast to coast here's my business card call me on Monday and the cameras to write about that because everybody kinda leaned in bell will you know what did George just say well opens vat and and that's how it all it just like I said synchronicity is you know you can't ignore them ... if you want to change your own reality if you're not comfortable with what you're doing in life and and you're searching for answers and you haven't found your bliss focus just focus the universe will come to you and did you know it takes a lot of work and it's a it's a lot of effort we've been doing this now for for since 2000 and we've been doing this for 9 years this just didn't happen overnight and it's a lot of hard work and a lot of dedication and and a good wife like ... my wife read it at my family I has been able to do all of this but going back to look you know living across the street from coast and and focused on a radio career and trying to rehearse and think about things in my own mind and and plan things out ... is what you have to do but the other thing is you have to roll up your sleeves and and one day just died you know you step up to the edge of the cliff you take a peek and you jump it all in and and that's what we did and here we are today and I'm talking deep to you it's just incredible when I hear these stories and you know that that year 2008 I remember so vividly because as you mentioned the economy was crashing at the time I own I still own the businesses but we were all suffering and I needed an outlet I needed something to get all this off my chest to this because as you said the UFOs conspiracies you to Bob you name it and I needed something and everybody knows the story by now but it was my wife group who came up with the word of very ties which is an all encompassing word but I'm very curious you you you have 2 bunkers the bunker you have 4 fade to black in the bunker you work were gathered data coast can you explain how things work for those people who listen to us to think we just basically press the on button and we start talking and then when the interview's over we go to bed which is could be further from the truth can you explain to people the ins and outs of beating beating media broadcasting our man yeah ... who far it is ... you can be very simple which is today you can have a laptop in a USB microphone or U. S. P. had sat and you can broadcast okay can be as simple as that this set ups that I have for the 2 bunkers like the way you put that aside ... the one that I'm sitting in now and of course coast to coast are nearly identical okay so the set up so the same the operation is the same I run ... I'll count now 123456 6 computers I have got to ... and those 6 computers all are independent of themselves ... and you do that for a few different reasons you do that for audio in and out and a video in and out of that all has to run independent so there's that but also you don't want to stress out anything right these computers don't have any software on them they don't do anything but what they are supposed to do if you open up the computer it would look like it was Brando right it's just got one function ... so anyway ... there's that everything is tied together everything is running ... and DSL direct Ethernet idea self a direct Ethernet connection and wired there is no wifi or anything like that in either studio ... I have a a a debt owed a digital console that all of my audio runs into and and video to us while all of that runs into here that includes all of the phone lines so I've I've got of course my microphone but couple of by a different phone line multi phone line matrixes that feed in on a couple of lines I've got my commercials I come in on another fader I've got to ... ... ... to audio ... plus I to video feeds and they all come in everything's then spits out independently so I have one computer that hooks up to the network that feeds out my radio feed again it's the same set up over a coast to coast everything comes in but it only goes out it with one audio feed one stereo feed that goes to the radios right that it's it's really a simple set up and it's the same thing here so one computer is feeding my ... you know ice cast speed and that goes out to all of our networks in syndication ... you there you go now I've got wax of compressors and and and and different up audio processors that I feed and compress the signal and it's the same set up again over a coast to coast now I've tried to replicate both ... on both sides so the sound is the same but also there's a professional level of things that need to hit a a radio feed and there you go we've gotta probably I'll I'll make a rough guesstimate and say there's probably $5200000 worth of gear that we've invested in here well over coasted to a little bit higher than that because the council is bigger and the studios a little nicer and there's other things but basically it's the same exact identical set up down of the microphones and other cable laying the headsets everything is is identical and that's what you have to do ... these days to have a word a good professional feed you have a choice you can go the the cheap route over you you can make the investment and and take it ... we feed you know I heart you know out of the bunker and and all of the others indications that we do talk stream live which is a huge network cagey are a a very very big network they have their standards so we need to make sure that coming out here it is as perfect and professional as as he can be there's nothing I can there's nothing I would change is that we're there's nothing I could change we have a great relationship with task gamin and road and and some other manufacturers out there that help to sponsor the show and I can get any piece of gear I want there's nothing that I need you know I would I'd there's nothing I could change it's kind of a weird feeling but but yeah that's it made we've taken it to the highest level that we can it's great it's like a musician that has all these racks and they just hit the limit of what they can put on those racks went I remembered the day it was interviewing my first guest I looked at my computer and I said wait a minute I did and I have a microphone but is not a he was beat Mike how do I do this so when I remember going to Best Buy and this this 16 year old kid working there and explain what I needed and he's like aha I have the right thing for you have an open box here it's usually $150 while still D. for $75 and that's what I use for about 23 years before I start up grading I created in a studio with its own booth and all that stuff but it's incredible how you begin and you try to use the bass and the cheapest slowly you start making things better and better and bigger end up you know your story of a file you made it all happen that's just incredible but also instead it in addition to the technical aspects people don't understand also the preparation and that's why I'm always take my head off people like you George nori you do this on a daily basis I personally couldn't have other responsibilities but you guys to do this on a daily basis what other preparation do you go through every night before you have do you have any kind of a do you do yoga meditation before you begin yeah I should I should I you know I really should the this schedule okay itself I'm it's daunting ... every week every month that we we take a look at it and and literally think how how how we how we gonna get through another month you know how it because everything is on our shoulders up and that's the same thing over a Khost I booked my own guest over a Khost ... got coast from the very beginning we we talked about this and and they gave me absolute autonomy I mode able to ... what I do over coast which is the same thing here it at fade to black of course but override coast a iBook aghast I am a loan in the studio are of course I have my engineers there my phone screeners and things like that but I don't have a boss I don't have somebody sweating me or coming in and telling me what to do I am able to just go in and in a professional sense and just be myself and do my thing ... is so but what I do have over a Khost is they have a team of web people and producers and and show prep and everything is handled for me I tell them who the gas is and then I am able to forget about it until I show up that night and the other stress so stressful thing I have is choosing the bumper music market which is one of my favorite things about ... over a Khost now here ... but we are now ... were closing in a probably done a about 1000 interviews ... were up to show today is show number 732 732 you combine that with the the show's over coast and the numbers they creep up on you mail they just creep up it's just like one day you look you know like what we got how did we get here now the interesting thing and the challenge is this if I've done 1000 interviews who's left right yes yes who's left interview ... I've done all of the greats I've done everybody that was on my side pocket list right seeing although those are died and ... I've brought back a few ... again and again and again by god the great Jim Marrs added many many interviews with him and and job but it's been trying to get to fresh information fresh faces fresh voices ... I'm trying ... in read is really good at this we'll try to get the next generation of researchers out there and there's nothing wrong with our generation now that there's nothing wrong with that but one day you and I are going to be here who's going to carry that torch we're we're looking for those I end and the more that we find out there is ... the that millennial generation and and before I underneath that you know age 3035 and younger down to 1516 who are they it's so vast and the difference is between our generation and you know that extends and so forth and the younger generations they get it they fully get there is no question about an E. T. presence there is no question about alien contact ... the afterlife of parallel worlds ... being lied to the education system they think they can get it they they it is part of their DNA and bringing them on ... to the shown exposing them that helps our show grow to as well because those that younger generation ... looks up to me I am not ... I'm not some old dude that doesn't get it I love my heavy metal I love music I ate it all right I speak the right words because I haven't grown up yet so they think I'm a cool old guy right there at that so many are comparable in coming on the show I get out there in public and we do a lot of conferences and I do a lot of public things and I'm out there doing it and the the kids that come up when I say kids are talking 20212225 that come up and go do your show it's the bomb you know I I really dig it I I I look around and I say to myself that I think were pretty secure I think that we're safe I think that they are going to carry the torch justified there just is angry ... and inquisitive and starving for knowledge as idea but if they they get it there isn't any question and there's a lot less in fighting with that crowd because they they all understand and they'd they'd listen to different ideas ... up here in our heeds group things are a little jaded a little more competitive the UFO and paranormal and conspiracy community is ... is not an easy one ... to understand them and to communicate and sometimes these different researchers and authors you find that ... they are fighting ... they're arguing a they're doing a lot of finger pointing and I do my best to just try to keep this community United dead and keep everybody talking to each other I'll tell you a funny story yeah I'm a which I haven't really aired out there too much but a couple of but years ago ... were at breakfast Arab read a conference I won't say which one and at this table is 1234 let's let's go with 4 A. listers okay think about that for a second and the the the prime right it of of the UFO and conspiracy community were all sitting at a table having breakfast in a to Rita myself and I think maybe a couple of fader mats and then not and they these people that I respect and there was a male and female are start fighting right at the table that we are in a restaurant where there are probably 100 people that are sitting around us having breakfast better all attendees and fans and they see who was sitting at you know with you know at our table and this argument starts to happen and everybody's witnessing this and I literally said okay that's it I am now is enough okay you guys are all friends of mine this right here is going down in front of everybody here do you think they want to see this you know they don't and everybody just kind of shut up for a second and caught themselves and and they said you know Jimmy you're right okay okay alright let's let's just chill this out because the community the the fans they see this invite they see this arguing going on and that confuses them further rainy day they they whine unity there who I didn't know that everybody is is friends and on the same page in sharing information and and this is what they do so you know but they this in fighting happens and that the fans out there they're not into that there they do not they want to see a a solidarity in our community they wanna know because our community is fighting the rest of the world right where the tinfoil hats they were facing this ridicule we got enough to deal with we don't need to be fighting inside of our community to as well ... I was warned about this and I know you've heard the same things over the years that as you get into this community is out all that it seems and and and things get really rough here and and sometimes you you just want to back up my god how I can deal with it a you know you're you're you're imagining things and then you get inside of it and you see really what's going on and it's not cool it's not a good thing but the younger generation doesn't do that it's really it's really strange they they would really run around ... in a happy world you know they're in a world of discovery and and trying to find out this knowledge of what is really going on they they don't want to fight you know so there you go that's that's my soapbox on this and I've been very vocal about it I'm I remember yeah when I first started to get some recognition and that you know I'm getting phone calls and and I was warned in all by some very respected people are independent ... warnings about what the future is and and what it's like out there to be careful and I chose to ignore it I thought are all do my own thing I am who I am and it'll be just fine and as though the days turned into weeks and turned into years they were exactly right it this UFO community is a is a treacherous one at times and it doesn't need to be it really really doesn't it's just that I'm and I'm a firm firm believer in the US and the UFO subject which falls under so many different categories of with you know near death or parallel worlds are time travel or any any of these questions that we have ... we don't know anything we don't know nothin nothing and that's an important way to view all of this none of these researchers know what all right now and none of them if and I was soo golos was on my show couple of months ago and I've quoted him many times ... because he said something very profound he said Jimmy when ... when that moment happens and E. T. truly steps off of a spaceship and says we are here and then starts to explain why we will find out that all of this are wrong all of us and that's that's really the truth so there's no reason for this in fighting I really politically that that we don't know we know something is going out we could see it we can witness said we there's too many abduction contactees and stories and video and photographs and eyewitness testimony have seen it myself so would view right but that doesn't give us the answers we just know that that is the evidence has something strange is going on in and we need to figure it out but there's no reason for the in fighting on this because any of those researchers that think that they know what all I had to ride back up and go no you don't put your evidence on the table let's talk about it but don't argue and don't say that you are right because you don't have any proof that you are I've seen things in the sky now I don't know I don't know what it is I I I I can't explain it but that doesn't make me the experts that you know it's not I I can't take a position of I'm right and you are wrong I can't take that position and nope and neither can anybody else and that's what's important here the more that we understand that that we need to stay on this quest and try to figure out what is actually going on that is that is the true path okay number yes or if if it is your statement that no that's that's the path that we need to stay on just listed just listen to everybody absolutely you know I remember the second interview I conducted was with that Steve Bassett Dan at the time I started this with the level of of course neither the note I was naive as I was in a sentimental ways and he told me beware of the ghetto I sing of the UFO community and at the time we did it make sense to me I thought everyone was in on the same page we're trying to look for the same with trying to finally try to get this close route but then as years went by and I will study going to do with do conferences in attending many of them I started seeing this infighting not only between you know some people who were attending who didn't agree with this or that but the guests per se and I started thinking why as you said this makes us look bad as it is we're defending a topic that like you I also was an avid reader when I was younger and I did not telling one because the moment Esther I grew up in a devout Roman Catholic household so you don't talk about these things but when you go to school and you start on your friends and you know well look at this distance weird light in the sky owe you into UFO's you're crazy and you just tend to close up and don't talk about it to what do you attribute this as Steve Bassam cleans it begitu icing the decision the the in fighting within the community what's what's your take on this what do you know I I I did the exact same things that you're referring to here it and and I'm glad that you say it like that for the audience because this is typically what is going on add the each step for step I went through those same experiences and a top me something very very very very quickly and it it's this I will not be negative I I just won't do it I'm not gonna take sides I'm not going to be negative I've had a 3 or 4 shows in a row well I've had 3 or 4 gas in a row maybe even in a month right maybe 16 gassed in a month or all of them were contradicting each other and I love that now it may be confusing to the audience that is you know they're they're they're taking notes there listening to everything and there we have on our last night then they said this tonight they're saying this now I'm a little confused what I suggest everybody is just listen just listen to everybody that's all that you have to do but I'm not going to be negative and say to a gas well last night so and so said this and now you're saying this tonight and now I'm questioning what you're saying warm questioning the gas from the night before what does that do it accomplishes nothing I go back 8 it is absolutely nothing I go back to ... the early days of when I was listening to late night radio pre dating coast to coast ed well including coast to coast but listening to all of the late night talk shows the ones that I enjoyed the most we're the ones where the host stayed out of the way and just allow the gas to share their experience their research or their opinion that's it and and I am able to get through the show paint my picture ... in my brain and and let my imagination go and absorb the show and enjoy the show and not get angst buildup or or you know negativity those of the shows that I enjoyed the shows were hosted go negative or try to pin somebody against the wall I check out I always checked out I lost interest in the show up because now the host is making it about himself and not the guest and that I have no interest in that so I have had the very same approach with fade to black well it what did I enjoy I I I I said to myself if I could do my own show that's how I would do it because that's what I enjoyed and I know that I will attract an audience that gets my take on things on how I want to not only conducted show they get that knowledge out through me back out and to the audience and that's how you do it you do it with just letting everybody share their own experience a research and and let the audience decide it's a conscious decision but it is allowed fade to black to grow because my audience knows that they can come on every night and and just let the the researcher the author the experiencer of the whistleblower whoever they are just to put their stuff out there that's that's what's most important and don't don't get into the in fighting I you know I get email die every week bring these 2 Gaston and let them debate you know what that that's like the most boring show you could ever have it's suppose it it it you know and those requests are very very rare you know and if I did a show like that and didn't approach like that my audience the ones that depend on me for just being honest and objective and asking the questions to draw out more information ... edify go against the grain I lose my audience because that's not what they're here for I am and it's very important and for anybody out there that's listening ... to this conversation ... between Malon eyed that may want to host a show were or you know to start a podcast in and you've got things to say list of the most important lesson that you can learn ... if if you intend to do that is just be yourself that's all you have to do just be yourself be that person that when you listen to the shows and you say to yourself ratify was there I was sitting in for Mel if I was sitting in Jimmy seat right now I would ask this question I would ask this question that's that's what I do catch it I I went through all of those scenarios ... with different cast out over the years and thought back okay this is how I would do it and I made that decision I would not be negative I would not pin anybody against the table I would not 2 sides I would not endorse that's not my job my job is to pull information out have fun doing it and make sure that the audience goes wow that was cool I really enjoyed that a dozen a goes against my paradigm it it goes against everything that I believe but the man that was cool and now I have something else to think about and that's that's that's it I think we've been very successful in that I tried as hard as it is bell I try very hard not to get angry and and and to be positive and and I think it shows and you know god bees are attracted to honey right and and I live by that I think that style equates longevity in the field because for years F. had people you know sometimes other radio host or listeners who write to me and say you need to confront this and that you need to have a debate between this and that and you want last when you say in the you've you've had close to 1000 shows now imagine if the word gets out that somebody's gonna come on your show and they know your style is a very confrontational one and they're gonna feel uncomfortable pretty soon you gonna be out of business and this is what people need to understand just beef because we interview somebody who might be controversial or may have a topic to discuss that is very unbelievable doesn't mean we endorse them or we believe from but we want to be able to just get out of the way as a true journalist these days we hardly have any true journalists out there they just they're given a script and they read from the script and if you don't believe me turn on the 6:00 news and switch channels used exactly the same thing but then non confrontational attitude getting out of the way and let in the gas get what they need to stay out of the way they feel comfortable and this is when the information flows and in my case I read the books I want to extract as much as I can from the gas make him comfortable and every time I do a show like tonight you're my favorite show you're my favorite guest US me that question when you interviewed me and I know the answers sells politically correct but every time I have somebody that is the most important person to me in the 2:00 hours that I'm interviewing what do you say about that that Tim but that's exactly the point and that's great you've hit on the head but there's another aspect to having that attitude when you ... I made ... some very strange statements about my own own personal experiences very early on in the show that I never shared with my family or friends and I'm talking about you know I had this little gray guy why th you know it's saying a bit much but somebody showed up in my bedroom 1 night right back in 9596 and you know I've never shared that experience but I talked about it on the air and suddenly I found that I didn't care anymore and I started to talk about my own personal experiences the audience hears that and they are now comfortable with speaking to their family or friends are calling into my show and say Jimmy I heard you talking about this same thing happen to me can I share my experience I've never talked about it before that is what is most important here and that falls back onto the guests if the gas you know that they can come on the show inches laid out there and and and stay comfortable with that and not be challenged because we get challenged everybody on on every point but if they can come on the show not be challenged and just talk about what they need to to speak about then we have gassed but if the word got out that yeah if you're invited on to fade to black or you're invited on a bare toxin and Mel's gonna slap you around the year not gonna get a return email you not gonna get a return call you're not going to be able to book gas and that that in turn metal is censoring its century you are now censoring your gassed you are limiting them 2 white if they have to say in our community which is the most important thing that I've learned in our community it is a wonderful the exchange of ideas and experiences that you don't hear at the supermarket hope he heard at home poker night it it you know what your friend's house you know you don't hear around the water cooler and the sharing of that in our community is the most precious thing that we have if you can't talk here you can't talk anywhere you know and I remember a very early on going to a couple of MoveOn meetings here in Los Angeles ago you know and ... you know 10 years ago going to these MoveOn meetings and listening to these conversations that are going how and some of them are pretty out there and I'm thinking to myself this is where I need to be you know people actually talk and listen here and there is no bias there is no ... hive what's the term I wanna use almost once a racism you know there isn't any of that the door is completely open and when this community starts to say you shouldn't have this guest on the show because I don't believe in what he is saying they don't understand how important and how wrong is saying or thinking like that is in our community we cannot censor you know that's exactly what our community is against were outspoken about the government and controls in the media and and and fake news and lying and and the the UFO question and how the government is lying to us in not telling us the truth and then you want to turn around and censor our own community that doesn't make any sense we need to be very conscious of that and and not cross those lines you if you can't talk here you can't talk anywhere and that is that is what is so important about having gas come on knowing that they can just let their frontal lobe connected to their lower jaw and it can chest operate if a gas has to stop and think about what they are saying right and they can't go there they're about to get challenged now we're not getting accurate stop and the freedom of thought for that gassed starts to get impeded you cannot do that the most wonderful shows that I have no the most wonderful answers is when I just say why that's my question right they may say something like ... so I had the craft landed in my backyard okay why now I get is the real answer you know.the nuts and bolts of the craft landed in the backyard it was blue and it had flashing lights on it okay well we've all heard that but why now that gas will be able to say their opinion on why that why he was chosen or she was chosen and let's get to the deeper reasons behind this with that gassed and that's what's most important here not the if the other answer to that would be ... how are you sure you weren't dreaming you know are you sure you you were imagining things are you sure you Justin watch a movie and this was something that was just implanted and the next day you think that'd happen that's all wrong and that doesn't provide anything to the audience easy etcetera question to ask is why and let the guest go and if the guests die doesn't think that they can give the right answer you're not gonna get anything from that question why very important lessons to learn all of you aspiring show host out there keep your questions short the best question is why I'll send everybody an invoice later and also I think one of the biggest lessons is to be humble 9 people that did that the listeners perceive that if your humble if you still stay true to your principles if you yourself me when I started I guess I wanted to pretend that I was a radio host and I almost I was almost at my problem yet still do sound robotic I even had a levy that that call me Mr Roboto she's to love to listen to that within a set one day you know why am I talking like that won't be speaking with his you know it monotone voice and then I started thinking be yourself you start talking about your stories that one day decided let me just share the story as to why this happened all the stories that went through as a child and all that in bloom it's just that when he started growing and people do realize this is a human being who feels pain who am I what a lot of people ask me why don't you have a lot of video would like to see more video well first of all it takes a long time to do it some doesn't like to shave or Analecta pew wearing nice clothes of times got that right but I have to tell you sometimes I'm talking to somebody who tells a very deep story that makes me cry and I just feel like people to watch me at that way and I I think this is a great thing that radio offers as a radio host we're here muting thinking wow what a great story and we feel for the guest and we feel for the pain that they've gone through you know as a family man you are I AM we think about our children and we want to leave a better future for our children our leave better children for the future and some of these topics can be hard sometimes don't you think I had ... well Whitley Strieber on ... 2 nights ago and I've had Whitley how many times and he's a great guy we talk we talk a lot off the air and and so forth when anyway ... that happened that exact thing happened 2 nights ago ... Whitley at the ... the latter half of ... the show was talking about his life right and which we've done many times on the show but he's going into a zone ... that was ... very precious and he went there he let it go well anyway after ... ... and I'm you know nobody well I have video cameras on in the studio the audience ... can see me in the membership area but anyway I was I was crying and and I and I was trying to anyway so he stopped and he was like yeah yeah so what do you think Jimmy and I was I was right alright you don't I'm swallowing I'm drinking water and coffee and trying to get the lump out of my throat but the audience clock that and it was ... if you know for me it was it was honest it was real but it's also live radio you know this isn't ... this is live and I needed to speak at that moment and I and I could not have the lump in my throat and and as I said good night to Whitley and started to a read my credits and and get off the air ... I couldn't get through it by I had a very very difficult time I how I get awed and I very rarely listen to a previous broadcast I I just don't I don't have the time but ... it would have been an uncomfortable thing even for me to listen to but I'm glad I had the audience ... I'd got to got to hear that honesty because they were all broken up to you should have seen the email that I had after that ... wow you know somebody said Beattyville I know that were out getting up to a break here but somebody sent me an email immediately after the show and said I'm just stop crying long enough to send you this email so I can type but that was that was amazing and there you go again ... Whitley is comparable you know he knows that he can come on fade to black and I we can just have the conversation that we need to have that he can say what he needs to say it wants to say and am not worried about die being censored or being questioned and and ... that that brings out the best in everybody what a great story you know I'm glad that we're not talking about these things because we're human beings folks we just are behind a microphone and we just want to bring the best out of humanity and as Jimmy said I wanna remain positive because I'm an optimist by nature but at the same time I don't wanna be hiding under a rock or I don't meditate problems away one of people I would have people be aware of what's out there so we can tackle those problems and make it with better world for everyone when we come back I want to ask you more right now we just scratching the tip of the iceberg but I wouldn't know either any topics need to tell me and on the other side other topics that you touch I give me some of the highlights above some of the people that have impressed you the most you influences obviously you have been shaped somehow perhaps those people that you listen to as a child had been able to do the work force of change in your life but how can people listen to fade to black and all you other ways to contact you in and listen about Jimmy church out of the simple thing to do is ... just the website which is I. Jimmy church radio.com all of our syndication is there everything is free ... and if we have a membership Barry and stuff like that but that the broadcast of free the website is free we don't have a pay wall or anything like that and everything with coast to coaster history channel or or of course our live broadcasting guess it's all right there just one portal and whatever syndication or network you want to listen to everything is there ... to to listen every night and simple folks you have no idea this is a privilege and an honor for me to be speaking with him at church tonight I really really enjoyed being with them on the 2 interviews that he did with me and now it's my privilege to be interviewing him we get along that there's a lot of chemistry and honestly I think that we share a lot of our style we wanna be bringing off the positive things that we all want to hear will keep things entertained and informed so folks don't go anywhere much more when we come back on very task with Jimmy church don't go anywhere nbspartist this very important Curtis interview listen to the right //
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Patrick Shank - Vox Populi - 1 of 2 - My Father Was an Area 51 Engineer
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A Veritas Special Report on the Las Vegas 10/1 Event with former CIA Officer Robert David Steele
\\and this is a very test personal report greetings I'm your host Belfair guys have their Rita's radio.com I want to bring someone to shed some light on the latest event in Las Vegas there are many questions that need to be answered but I wanted to do this now before the mainstream media attempts to shape our thoughts in order to push the multiple agendas I guess today's Robert David Steele a veteran of this radio program and an internationally acclaimed intelligence professional with over 30 years experience it's a contest tight and covert operations officer well Robert and welcome back how are you no I'm I'm sorry nam concerned that we're not getting the full truth but fine that's why you're here Robert I I have some of the survey shows that I like to discuss with you in a few minutes but first give us your perspective on this event well it's been it's been our bet now we're up to I think update number 10 early on there wasn't enough evidence that people actually died and been shredded but now there is now there is so we're calling this a hybrid false flag there has been a nonviolent national level femur exercise with a crisis actors and on top of that some group I don't believe the US government but some group has come in and monstrously murdered a number of people including the use of an M. 60 machine gun and hollow point bullets that shredded on impact I believe that paddock was a Patsy but he was set up he may have thought he was working for CIA or FBI but it could have been someone like the Mossad it can easily faked that arm I do believe that we're not being told everything that the FBI knows and I'm very very concerned if in fact this was a Zionist attack on American soil that the U. S. government will do what Lyndon Baines Johnson did when the Zionists attacked the USS liberty and strafe did a torpedo that and really mutilated that crew we covered it up I don't want that to happen in Las Vegas I love the disconnects a lot of emails I'm getting from people that image you probably have seen it already of the deceased yeah alleged Patsy paddock if you look at the images of the one where he's standing next to his his partner at the Filipina lady and the one where he's dead all you have to do is look at the ears he has attach your Lopes and then the dead body detached earlobes there's blood but the bottom of his shirt there are 2 pile to to to pulls a blood behind him one that seems to have seeped through the carpet much earlier and then on top of it there's more blood their bullet casings on top of the of the yeah the pull of blood nothing on top of them some disconnect what's your take on that again I have no direct knowledge but from where I sit it is impossible for paddock to have been the shooter and you say that conclusively no absolutely not I mean bear in mind I have no direct knowledge I'm sitting here filtering second and third hand information a lot of which is fraudulent everything the mainstream media's putting out is fraudulent it's not reliable are a lot of the alternative media is also fraudulent not reliably Cloete some of those earlier videos it looks very state what I will say is this all suggestions are that product was a very happy man and multi millionaire all 2 jets he could do anything you wanted in the world he was a loyal patriotic American who would absolutely go to help that the government now no intelligent person we have a meeting with isis in the middle of a casino which is like Fort Knox they've got it and they got a camera on every urinal there is nothing that happens in that building without intent surveillance at all times so for me even though Pat it may have been told that he was going to be doing an arm staying with isis and he thought he might have thought he was working for the CIA or the FBI I don't believe it the fact that he is dead tracks with this being a Mossad operation or 8 private paramilitary operation funded by perhaps a U. S. citizen with or without loyalty to Israel who wants to make a lot of money by moving a lot of money into the ... department of homeland defense budget for gun detectors metal detectors gun towers that triangulated guns arm transportation security agency being expanded the bus stations and so forth so at multiple levels this Abang you always ask yourself who benefits I think it is real benefits I think the one percent benefit I think the Democratic National Committee benefits I think the anti gun people benefit and I think the Chertoff himself benefits magnificently from all of the money that will come out of this event shaping the U. S. budget going forward do you think that loss will be enacted perhaps first in Nevada and progressively going to thin the federal level where they're gonna install these backscatter X. ray machines not only air airport we know that now but it was only a matter of time where this is going to be at hotels malls movie theaters bus stations train stations yeah what are we seeing here a did the surveillance state finally getting out of its shell yes that's that's what we're seeing here this this Aventis and turned is intended to destroy the America the beautiful that we now again I'm getting a lot of information and it's very difficult to discern but there's one that I received regarding always sci systems and the shirt off group everybody knows Michael Chertoff phase the former director of homeland security with Ben was the one behind the company that installed all these machines butter porch is there a possibility that he might be involved with Sheldon Adelson who's one of the biggest casino magnets in the world in order to make this happen the short answer is there's certainly a possibility arm there is absolutely not any evidence I know it would indict him or convict him but that is certainly something that the FBI should be taking seriously and I I'm very very concerned that the F. B. I. if it even suspects such a thing will not be allowed to investigate will not pursue it and just like the USS liberty they will cover it up I have another message to little bit long but I think it's important to read it and then they'll get your your reaction to this this is from somebody wrote who says I spoke with my friend who works at the Mandalay bay last night you just security there is it that everyone is so confused and none of it makes sense he said that the alleged shooter dismantled the fire alarms on the floor and set up surveillance cameras in the hallway you said that the security there is insane on all fours and hallways have several cameras and there's no way he would have seen them but he did say that it's it just so happens that every security camera on the 30 second floor was not working that day just like this are by comments just like 911 in addition he said the alleged shooter removed to windows himself supposedly you did say that it's not uncommon to checking several bags ons or suitcases Abby's hotels but the strength 1 needs to have to pick up the suitcases with all these weapons and ammunition a 64 year old man wouldn't have and a belt and bell man would have realized something was odd in addition he said that there's no way a man of his age could handle these weapons their weight and strength I asked him if he has been told not to talk to the media or other people about what happened and he said no but the higher ups are aren't saying anything when the shooting began all the bright light at the front stage were turned on exposing all of the concert goers he did understand why they would do that and make it more visible to the gunmen one last thing he did confirm that there were other shootings and other nearby casino resorts several concert attendees have posted that there were multiple shooters and I've been very detail about what they saw and heard and experienced for some reason Facebook keeps leaving their posts you don't have to be a conspiracy theorist do know that none of this adds up it just doesn't make sense why the cover up what are they hiding what's their twisted suggest there is a gun control because within a few hours after this tragedy you have the politicians babbling about gun control is identify why kill so many awards so maybe I'm not sure about what but I'm pissed I want the truth and I'm gonna mention the name of the person your take on that that's a very well written message it raises all the same questions that I have are I believe the FBI owes us say a 3 dimensional forensics view of the killings on it's possible to plot every bullet strike determine what kind of bullet was they should be digging up every bullet that's in the grassy area are they should be showing us a sketch of where all of the dead people were are and all of the would be people and above all we should abandon this section but Pat had anything to do with this product was a Patsy and the way in which the surveillance of the 30 second floor was handled sounds to me like a combination of an inside job and the most another message I received they're telling me that all ready for a long time Las Vegas hotels have had backscatter technology installed in places where you can see them but security can actually see how much change you have in your pocket what women have in their bags what lipstick they have so if they have this technology already in place why the push for doing this is it's too overtly tell the people we are watching you 247 it's a good thought I mean what comes to my mind is follow the money I mean who benefits are there a lot of people are saying this was done to punish trial and punished truck supporters including the country western crowd is still a lot of talk about ... colds and and blood sacrifice and so forth and this is all beyond me I'm just pulling the pieces together by the way your listeners may want to check out tiny your L..com forward slash Las Vegas false flag bomb or they just look up Las Vegas false flag I think I own 2 of the top 3 hits arm I put together stuff from a whole bunch you different people and I'm trying to make sense of it as I go along right now I only know for things one it was a legitimate national level exercise that did not intend to kill anybody going on the entire week including that night to somebody came in and murdered and mutilated a whole bunch of people probably not the U. S. government 3 paddock had nothing to do with the murder and lets himself a Patsy for the government the mainstream media are not telling us the truth you say who benefits but I also heard you in a different interview today and I'm glad that you don't have any censorship when you talk about all these things the we know our own Congress almost Senate we have a lot of dual citizens here and again folks you have to understand that this is the truth is it true that there is legislation that may be enacted in the future in the United States where if you say that you're gonna boycott the state of Israel you may face legal penalties that's absolutely true via the bill is a Senate to 70 I think in those that commensurate house bill and it makes it a a sullen need to criticize Israel by calling for the boycott of Israel this is insane this is so far off the charts and saying I just don't know what they were thinking because for every loyal American citizen what this does is identify by name every senator and every representative who put Israel first every senator and every representative who has co sponsored this bill to make it a larceny to criticize Israel should be fired as soon as possible most of them in November 2018 which by the way is the year in which I recommend every possible independent run for office do you think that we are going is really finally see independent some representatives running and winning seats in the future a short answer is yes now I started hash tag on Rick to support are legitimately elected president and when I started hash tag on ray nor I'm Rick.that it was my hope the president trump would lead it and he would himself introduce an election reform act to Congress since September that doesn't appear to be happening so what I'm doing for the next several months is inviting people to create their own conversational groups in everyone of the congressional districts and examined the twelfth election reform possibilities graphic that we've created and pressured their member of Congress to have a town hall meeting joining an election reform caucus on the hill and ultimately cosponsored election reform act if that were to happen it would make it much easier for independence to run and win but what I will say is that with or without election reform legislation I believe November 2018 is gonna go down as the year of the independent going back to Lee Harvey paddock if what I said is true M. major strip hotels in Las Vegas already have hidden backs backscatter tapestry scanners hidden behind the decorum the main hotel entrance as insecurity knows what you're bringing how can someone smuggling 27 pieces of deadly stealin and thousands of rounds of ammo I clips in drum magazine's dean to a first class major hotel how is that possible there's 2 explanations the first is that it was an official U. S. government operation and they had the full complicity of management the second is that it was a foreign agent not necessarily the most sought maybe it was the Donna intelligence service are and they were pretending to be the CIA or the FBI and secured management complicity this is why skilled interrogators are needed big is these questions have to be asked of every single person in there and someone has to create the mosaic of how these guns actually got in there that's part of the clue but there's an awful lot of other stuff that can be done including signals intelligence and I strongly suspect that the National Security Agency is still not providing proper support the federal bureau of investigation if it were there would be an all hands exercise going on at NSA right now to deliver to the FBI every cell messaging every email during this time frame in Las Vegas I don't think that's happened I've heard this notion that the hotel is not liable for what happened but if this technology is proven to be unfair existing there wouldn't that be the case for a major lawsuit from all these people that's a good question except that you you have to go back to my comment Paddick didn't do it well somebody did well you need to you need to hear the forensics and figure out where the other shooters were I mean I was asked on Russian television today how I would've done it I certainly would not have been on the 30 second floor I wouldn't even have been on the fourth floor I would have had one or 2 black bands are black trucks I would have had plastic hermetically sealed across the back of the truck with a M. 60 machine gun mounted at least 3 feet off the deck of the truck and I would have blasted these people at reactor chest level and all of the shell casings would have stayed inside of the bowl of the plastic US seal and then I would have had conspirators close the doors on the trucks we drive off and that's the end of it who says that that didn't happen and what we see on the third in the fall of the 30 second floor could be a distraction because I've heard a different audios I've heard different argues Robert I've heard bodies where you can hear the live they they the ball is going really really close to to where they're being recorded and then faraway ordinance well no this this this is really I I think this is this is as big as Pearl Harbor 911 the USS liberty I mean this is big this is really really huge yeah if are legitimately elected president looks at this in the correct perspective this is a gift from heaven because if the FBI can do its job it's supposed to be the top counter intelligence agency on the planet I'm not so sure some days but if the FBI can do its job and if the president can prevail on the FBI did not cover out no matter who it is that they discover then this could lead to the termination of Zionist influence on the U. S. Congress and it could lead to the termination of the deep state controlled by the one percent of the billionaires at the top let's dissect the plus problem reaction solution we we all know there's the problem there's the reaction from the people people who are very emotional are easier to steer we already see it a social media and people are clamoring for more gun control I don't think that's going to happen so that's not the case then the only other isn't right now we're looking at the media the day after or even hours after this are saying that this person patter guy was converted a few months ago by ISIS then they changed their tune which one is that there look one of the things I have a real problem with is narratives written by children arm a lot of these narratives are written by people who haven't had real life experience and it's it's it's stunning to me because for the amount of money that's being made on this in the amount of money that went into this you would think you have an actual quality scenario this makes no sense at all I think the chances of this guide being converted to Islam or 0 I think this was a false sting operation in which he was led to believe that he was doing is staying with isis I've seen the alleged message from our from a Las Vegas police officer that says that you're keeping this on there ... I should hush because they're still armed ISIS people all over Las Vegas and they're trying to hunt them down I don't believe that for a minute I think paddock was lured into a situation where he could be made low could be the Patsy it's an attack on the truck demographic it makes 0 sense at all and I'm really quite certain paddock did not kill anybody period what do you foresee happening in the next few weeks I don't know I really don't know I pray that are legitimately elected president sends out a tweet that says I'm gonna get to the bottom of this before thanksgiving and then does it and I pray that our president is willing to hang whatever billionaire might have been behind this as a sign a meme for Zionist Israel you see that's very optimistic at the same time when he says to his during in the swamp he still has too many swamp monsters around him perhaps FBI CIA you name it you're you're absolutely right and there's there's also stories about the White House I mean Roger stone is said he's being drug others have said that the White House has been completely equipped by the Obama administration all with some are electromagnetic frequency modulator sick it really mess you up arm I frankly don't know how wha but I think Donald Trump is not himself he's not the old Donald Trump that we saw on the campaign trail that led many of us to vote for him so I don't know what the answer as I would like to think that the marine corps generals have their integrity and that they will support the president and that they'll get to the root of this but I really really don't now let me say that if we cover this up the way we covered up the USS liberty than America is lost now when I look at this event and the timing week a lot of people are saying well acted dog because of the NFL kneeling the Porto Rico AB what's happening which mysimon related what's happening in Spain and in Catalonia the scene that they that the independence vote there are perhaps the media doesn't want us to see that here all of sudden the North Korea story fell would be through the cracks yeah I I don't know what's going on but you know I really do think this is an opportunity for Donald Trump to step up and demand the truth and hopefully he can see that he's not getting the truth mom it's entirely possible that this is a private military corporation that's gone row to tali possible that the ... Zionists are blameless arm but if you follow the money it seems to point to a combination of Israel and those who would profit from the spending in legislation that would come out of this horrible event in which many people died at work badly mangled shouldn't there be a law Robert that would prevent any elected official being the newest citizen of any other country other than the United States well yes and no you know I used to be in the business of recruiting traitors and the traders I recruited were never dual citizens they were citizens of their own country what we don't have in the United States is a proper counterintelligence function our members of Congress are being bribed blackmailed and sadly a lot of that black male appears to be done by the CIA the FBI and NSA which is why in addition to the election reform act I believe president trump needs to offer every member of Congress a full presidential pardon for anything that may have done in the past conditional on their sitting down with that new restructured expanded our revitalized F. B. I. the debrief someone who has been blackmailing them over what we have a god given opportunity here to clean house no pun intended but there's the former FBI director already get conducting an investigation on trump your budget with told me how can he do this when they have the bullseye art you're absolutely right let me point out that Robert Mueller's distinguish role in history is to a protected Dick Cheney over 911 which makes which makes a lot of sense that's what you were dead Mueller was responsible for making sure that Dick Cheney did not take the Paul the fall for 911 what I do know is that this needs to be investigated in the most professional manner possible this is literally I I've you this is a gift if the current FBI director the newly appointed FBI director and the director of national intelligence both of whom I have every reason to believe a man of integrity if they want to change America for the better this is an opportunity for them to pull everybody together for example the national security agencies providing absolute crap in terms of tactical counterintelligence support and tactical clandestine intelligence support overseas change that get everybody to work together let's take Las Vegas apart brick by brick and build it back up again and let's get to the bottom of this fight thanksgiving and let's hang a few people but my main concern Robert is the government representatives they have one religion one religion only it's cold reelection the ones who really elect these people I don't Bob yes they're the ones who put money if you if Sheldon Adelson does not put his money where he wants if you're not there with him and I know truck met with them if you had met with and also perhaps you would not have won all these people that have all the big money supporting these politicians my concern is that they enact right and a net loss that are against the constitution against the fabric of our nation what's going to happen in the future after this event it's already having the waves all over Congress look as a loyal American citizen I believe that there are 2 solutions for restoring integrity the US government solution number one is for Donald Trump to introduce the election reform act now this month and hashtag Enrique is all you need to find a 12 things that need to be fixed which are based on interviewing and reviewing the work of thousands of others that's number one number 2 the president needs to offer Congress a presidential pardon for every member of Congress conditional on their providing a debriefing on who is blackmailing them and bribing them and over what an armed with that the president can not only breathe new life into our Republic we can actually cleaned out all the people that are being better blackmailing our members of Congress I'm a huge truth and reconciliation guy I'm not out to hang members of Congress some of the hanger blackmailers well you remember that 11 the narrative was already written prior to the event do you think the same happened here where did they get sloppy this time I think that it was written prior to the back and they got sloppy any comments for the future anything else you like to say for today's special report Robert well are ya I continue to struggle ... and I would be very glad to have people make donations are Enrique.net is a good starting point for anyone who wants to try and improve their country not only in the U. S. but it's gone international so on rate.net is where you can go and that will show you how to get in touch with me and it will also show you how to get donations if you wish but everything on that website is free you can become a citizen activists using what's on that website that no further cost did I hear the Cynthia McKinney is also involved well Cynthia McKinney has been involved there is some confusion right now it looks like she's going to stay with her job in Bangladesh and I certainly wish her well in all possible respects well for one brief shining moment we showed what it looks like when an alt right white guy in at all left black women work together and that's what we can all aspire to in the future right now my focus is on helping people understand that there's a 12.election reform possibility and there are legitimately elected president Donald Trump merits our trust and confidence Robert David Steele what is your website off I beta iota.net in on break.net and for those who want to read my life of work for free Robert David Steele.com Robert thank you so much for coming back to very test let's stay in touch all right bye bye bye for now that was Robert David Steele give us his perspective on this event folks I would highly suggest that we all exercise our ability to discern there's a lot of information speculation and even this information coming through my desk but I'm not referring to mainstream media disinformation but information released on purpose in order to distract you from the truth my job is to find the pieces of this puzzle this report was brought to you by very tense radio to support impartial uncensored and commercial free media with no attachments other than the truth subscribe advertise radio.com we'll find hundreds of life changing interviews that is all for now thanks for listening I'm a fabric as until next time be well //
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Morgan Reynolds. Ph.D. - 1 of 2 - The Fed, Moon Landings, False Flags, & The Deep State
\\has been almost 50 years since we landed on the moon and 16 since the attacks on 911 do you believe the official story about both defense those who would reject this hypothesis simply because the government and the us I would never lie to us about this or that clearly do not have a lucid understanding of history they lied about the JFK assassination the line up of the Vietnam War the Gulf Tonkin incident a line about 911 the line about Iraq demonstrating a clear history of establishment subterfuge now this hoax claim it does contain a fair bit of content but we should be careful to separate data from fact we sometimes too easily fall into a trap of dismissing someone attain hatter without looking at the data but the more glaring concerns either a they destroyed mission data schematics of footage because they were covering their trail or be they were trying to keep the technology from the rivals lest we forget it was a Cold War going on at the time V. seems slightly more unlikely because of the immense effort it would take to get to the moon I would not wish to jettison all that information also why haven't we returned to the moon either a it was a ridiculously expensive exercise the first time with no real tangible benefits for any government wishing to go on such a mission could be they didn't go the first time what we think subsequent missions would be more cost effective because of all the available mission data from the first mission just like with JFK then 11 etcetera perhaps we will never know conclusively reading some host Mel fabrica but to listen to tonight's full interview in all the for material you know what to do by now discography retells radio.com and subscribe I dissect all of this tonight special guests is Morgan Reynolds PhD a professor emeritus at Texas a and M. university and former director of the criminal justice center at the national center for policy analysis headquartered in Dallas Texas he served as chief economist for the U. S. department of labor during 2003 under George W. bush's first term his website is linked and veritas radio.com I he'd choices directly from hot springs village Arkansas Lipper first rate also welcome to very test good to be with him now thank you for the invitation I always enjoy a conversation about weighty matters absolutely may call you bargain by the way yes please do thank you well first of all were you able to discuss all of these topics now that you are retired I mean back when you were not retire you're teaching we able to discuss all these topics will be the second tonight you know it was ... manner of le me learning as I went to her I was you I felt free on economic issues including economic policy analysis for example that I was part of my income was being a policy ... want for the national center for policy analysis which is a market oriented affirm a nonprofit think tank so was it in in that so those there was some and others and high degree of intellectual freedom but I've got to say when I retired I felt liberated now I could did go step outside of my training role as an economist and ... go much more widely and boldly and if I'd stayed on the faculty well actually you know one of the things that happened was up Robert gates was president of Texas a and M. university and now ... 4 or 5 when I did this article that ... got some notoriety and got some notice it it ... went outside my normal a readership or bounds and ... people a few people played it up and is a former bush should a few Cheney official questions on 911 and ... ... Robert gates of course these famous CIA spook and now I guess a couple of ... terms as a DOD secretary and ... unmanned I don't respect he's a smart guy operator but after that it plummets anyway he said ... that anyone who ... questions 911 is beyond the pale that was the shorthand version and that's on my blog got a no more games.net you can find it there but ... ... that shoes ... the it and I I actually criticize that in this ... volume in American intellectual speak out on 911 let me pick that up the well very well known David ray Griffin and Peter Dale Dale Scott to add is that this volume it's called 911 in American empire intellectual speak out and ... that articles on my blog but there are ... lunatic clothes and it was ... my point about it was that gates didn't live up to the mission statement at Texas a and M. university and ... the articles call 911 Texas a and M. university and heresy Heery saying this up most important political event of the 20 first century is all wrapped up we all we all know what we saw it was part of his statement but Hey this is an important ... it's it's the most important political event data of the 20 first century so that shows ... then that helps us get a bearing on how liberated I was so I'm and ... you know Bobby Kennedy once said ... who hear me and I'm one of the articles that ... he says ... that ... enough fact Hey you know the the world I thought I was dealing with I found out it wasn't the real world so ... I in 911 was a a had a big impact on me ... them yeah in that once I owe left my job as chief economist run at the US department labor which was kind of fun but it was ... I was just intellectual armor for secretary ... Elaine Chao who stayed on to well both bush terms and now she's secretary transportation right she's highly respectable person but she is a not gonna Sheik anything operar or do anything ... dramatic to sentence Cixous up and there's lord knows there's a lot of problems with the U. S. and the world done so yeah it's been very liberating and ... I along with by the community and many others have learned a lot that ... in the last 16 years Bobby Kennedy of course a somebody who's really pushing forward the anti vaccine movement and the fact that I'm saying this not because I'm an anti ad that movement I'm totally in favor of la not vaccinating but that's why I get attacked all the time when I look at California and the fact that they're in do it comes in a compulsory matter there and that's that's beyond my money my logic embodied a couple things said that just occurred to me number one now since we're talking about you mentioned Bobby Kennedy you taken mandatory vaccination and number 2 having been the chief economist you take on the federal reserve and the bubbles that we continue to experience every few decades no no the federal reserve yeah that's the ... fount of evils the work of the devil can be dramatic about it well then that if I were elected president which ain't gonna happen ... and naturally but ... then be my first goal would be to get rid of the federal reserve because printing funny money is there the source of the welfare workers state which is unsustainable a if I am both aspects of it for sure we are headed to ... ... a complete meltdown ultimately the federal government to just pass the $20000000000000 national day and then that doesn't even include these ... $50000000000000 worth of promises well that the welfare state is made and what ultimately happens is that ... there there is gonna be a default each either hard default or soft you thought so this goes beyond a the problem of that business cycles the boom bust is is our product of artificially low interest rates and ... funny money in early that the problem started ... my ... in recent history Weller's continue a Hey when they founded it yeah we know that there's going to be problems sitar that then we need we need honest money that means go basically okay so hers a tag along I like silver to ... but precious metals limit they then found a way to print well gold so ... nexant day it's the people's money ultimately that's what your people prefer her and as late as the up to 1910 or thereabouts ... yeah 40 percent of the money supply was gold and silver that's that's real money okay so if the federal reserve of big because that Hey how can you borrow $20000000000000 well the the the the reason is that the people that the bond holders and the ... treasury bill holders the in other words the lenders of believe that they will be out of their money is safe there ... they'll get it back closer interest ... because because of the federal reserve so if you put the yeah you get rid of the federal reserve and you have real money ... a course during wars these ... historically these governments would go off but let's take the civil war of war of Yankee Krashen however labeled says well then that that was the green back and Lincoln was the greenback president but ... there was enough morality ... who joie standards that of these governments would always a return where after some years ... to need a precious metal standards and let me make one more point Richard Nixon ... hang when Pete a 8/15/1971 he cut the last link between the U. S. dollar and gold and even though it was a it's a and the international gold standard it only mattered between governments but it really mattered yeah you had to know restrain your training ... because Hey look got a government like France would come by and say Hey I want to turn it all these dollars for goal and that's when Nixon close to gold window well that freed the federal reserve from the last respectability constraint temperate the S. so that's why we're it's an absurd situation now where where ... our our 10 reserves chieftains including the current one the school marm ... Yellin it's it doesn't it they they don't have a clue when others just they are Keynesian slash monitor this weird without ... there the old fashioned links I'm talking about they don't ... they they think you can yeah centrally manage the economy there's no reason for example to have government any government bureau of call into a private banking bureau 2 a that a target or manage interest rates that should just be an interaction that should be a market phenomenon that's the most important price era it penetrates throughout the economy N. it's simply an interaction between now savers and yeah ultimately investors yeah borrowers and lenders cell there's there is there's no love real point to it except government of course well as a close link with banking it's follow the money now follow them in retrospect when you look at Nixon by the way let me just say this from the beginning it's such a breath of fresh air to be speaking with somebody who comes directly from academia but who speaks the truth and I am not sensing that you're trying to to to change your worst the pacified the authority yeah you know I've I've had many professors who have interviewed in the past and you can tell you can tell the walk a fine line and I'm glad that you're speaking with that any censorship but I appreciate the let's hope that all the interview can be like that but speaking of the Nixon and and the end of the convertibility of U. S. dollars do you think he made a golden era by doing this in the recent was to finally remove the last last leash that the federal reserve had I do know that Nixon ... was so shrewd enough for to really think his way through it and he was surrounded by the NY Santa hit the same Keynesian M. mentality ... I'm trying to remember the one professor it day university of Michigan at the time was a gardener Ackley Clara I think so the a famous a macro economic a textbook author and I don't think Nixon and ... you know Nixon was a and many ways a clever politician but I don't think he was principled or tutored and non monetary matters to have a real an ideological love position on it I might be wrong but that that would fit with the Nixon more generally and ... so he he just did the expedient thing and I had more important he thought more important matters like a lot of managing the Vietnam War getting us out of that recognizing China and so on that was his main how you know contributions you could say the legacy what's going to be my legacy so ends it easy ... it short term and expedient to close the gold window and besides you know he puppy that included the package who is wage and price controls that shows you how how little they knew you know oh yeah you know big business is raising prices is no it's it has to do with ... supply and demand for money and inflation is ... as Milton Friedman said well it is always and everywhere monetary phenomena so he took the easy way out when they're real interested here's now they yeah you call her well assisting in the US and it would have been a temporary suspension and we got to get our house in order and there's nothing wrong with deflation even though ... the the powers that be constantly all well goodness we can't have a ... falling price level Hey what could I think about the other comment ... people come up with and we all enjoy falling prices and it's not only objections are are are ridiculous and ... up capitalism properly understood and course of does involve economic growth entrepreneurship technological advance arm savings being converted up turning more less wisely into productive assets are rising real wages are lots of good things that ... I'm most people would concur and hand this is the way and try higher productivity with a constant money supply once this thing is money you don't need anymore you cannot really only destroy neo wealth producing process so ... the whole thing about the the the rational for the sh instead are I am in the process right now of destroying so it is it's because the Hey I and I know a lot about the marketplace and ... ... took many people of course ... I'll at least once upon a time in the university's once they encounter any up free market oriented economists they change their call of politics most Americans they don't really understand the federal reserve to me the USA was hijacked in 1913 and most people most politicians if they want to come out as industry of yours for the American people they say we need to audit the federal reserve Odyssey Odyssey like you let's abolish it you know they are the federal reserve of reveals part of it so even less by resisting an audit and it a true independent audit I and of course ... Ron Paul famously is trading at I get this to happen and at minimum on it Barris's them into a fighting it tooth and nail what do you guys trying hard how it you know what about that goal do we really have it I'm so yeah you you mentioned the federal reserve you know 1913 I've argued in front of my students on occasion is of that the poorest understood worst year in American history because 3 bad things happen 1 you had the first federal reserve authorized it and I was like yeah and December 24 when ... than the American people who didn't really well to the extent they knew anything they oppose the European central bank but here they pass it at midnight on Christmas Eve federal reserve yet and then you had the ... income tax another business and personal incomes ... and then you have the ... a direct election of U. S. senators which seems like a minor thing but up until then senators were delegates by state legislatures and that meant they were ... and a subject to immediate recall when the legislators ... legislature majority of found that they were incompetent or ... ... not acting in the best interest of the state to enter a ... kind of us component of states rights and decentralized political power yeah so what you have direct election of course although the campaign money can come across borders big time but when you're just a delegate that's a different ... I'm prestige and influence status than it is today where US senators are thought to be a big big deal most of them would be recalled if he still had that that that that the way we used to do it in the past I think so yeah yeah yeah you know I used to think well maybe this whole emphasis on state and local governments and to it being close to the people isn't as important because I am a personal and follow up on a much more closely national events that's my thing but it is true that did they are special in local governments ... counties counties you know which are are really established by the state governments as ... administrative subdivisions they acquire a of certain local power because they are close to people and and ... he is this decentralized and decentralizing aspect your is is powerful what you've got a government down at the county level much less the city ... township level so I ended on the politicians have got to live with those conditions true so there's a lot of good aspects of this and that's why this ... switch to direct election by US senators ... who was it that maybe has third rank of these bad things that happened but still it's it's another important centralizing non evil that does lead to some many of our troubles today if you and I were to enter Fort Knox today what will we find ... wouldn't that be great yes let's do that now yeah it's our money that is not the government is saying these are you are state parks are these are your National Park City enjoy them but don't ... you know litter its center well yeah well they are going to show us that are that yeah which makes it all the more suspicious so that you know there's so many other you mean you mentioned at the outset about a government lying and that's of my initial US belief or course I any controversial issue which I would have said that ... 20 years ago as recently as 20 years ago but now we anything that's important or suspicious you know the government is lying I visited for example of Roswell New Mexico because we were on a energy trip this was ... well I maybe a year ago well late winter I never been there and they had this wonderful museum and that at the outset that ... they they have a sign that says this was established by 3 businessmen it has no connection with government so I set up I I'm gonna give them a break and maybe respect some of the evidence they show me about what happened it back in ... July 1947 or didn't happen and I thought for sure I would ... get enough but information from another that visit and there were lots lots of fascinating things there but ... I never really did make up my mind about whether this was a a send up of men ... on this ranch 30 miles outside of Roswell or at any of their very lives of a book by Mary Bennett and David S. Percy called dark moon Apollo and the whistle blowers and west they argue and I just don't know enough to really post an article about a they are you that something happening happened a real you are full of that happened I believe it wasn't corona New Mexico you're not not there this rant show them in this mostly Norris of love Roswell me and her and ... so Hey up but point is it was very clear that government was lying because it would change his story ... ... every 12 to 2004 hours you know they were covering up but what were they covering up the so ... that's just one example I know the government was lying about it because you can see these reversals ... and neatly displays the evidence displayed in many they proposed a lot of people by the way ... in connection with this old man or what and non event for all we know and the near Roswell but ... ... distraction now count their traps to cover up love the real event but not only that but does you say they changed their stories to the point that they really thought the American people are stupid and I'm saying this because years later the city was crash test dummies but crash test dummies had been invented when this whole event happened and you know we would think that those who are creating these fake stories we think that in the future people will figure it out well okay ... and member of the weather balloon story ran a yeah the L. let me give you an example of this the way ... people in government thanks even if they're a good soul I thought who okay have run it like in the US department why labor during my stint there because they have a public information office well these are the spinners right I'm talking to one of the you know the gals there and we're all political appointees you know the the the up a monster bureaucracy but like the rest of the part of labor has 16 or 17000 employees ... most of which are of bureaucrats long term civil servants tied and but at the top there are people who who are political appointees and you get to change those and if you come and ... after election sets and ... so I'm a political appointee is chief economist at ... this gal is to and I said you know what why don't I can't remember what the issue was but I said you know why don't we just tell the truth about this one because ... it it's not going to have any any real negative air kick back and said so for us for the long run I'm I was always frustrated with the Republicans because ... as I could contrasted with leftist do you know ... really plays a long run gained a leftist will start out with some cultural or political or economic issue the sentence is absurd that never I get this done but they keep on shipment away and they get it done okay but she says her response is ... nobody's gonna remember tomorrow what we said yesterday although no wait a minute yeah this kind of well yeah for him the truth it adds up people who you know is that they they're gonna just saying I can't trust anything they say which you're probably as it is where we all are as being more realistic about government though the thing you know what is it that's one of things that you know public polls show wizard of rapid decline in and confidence in government since we're talking about it a good finisher step yellow light by a tag along ... taking on so there was well Donald Trump said one thing as a candidate and now as president while he's matured and cheered by the neocons and that this is a complete betrayal a supposedly his base trumps race aw hasn't noticed or or doesn't care but this is not gonna 16 long run well when I think of that I think that if you will get to that position of power and there's an embedded college shadow government governed behind the cover of whatever you wanna call it who recalls the shots I don't think that would allow him to mean yes sweetie got us out of the DPP which is great has done some good stuff but there's some others like the perpetuation of war you know those are the things that he he said that he was gonna stop and it seems that he's going back as you said the neo con way yeah exactly I I agree with you that you hit on that war and peace issue are I gave up on him and with the Afghanistan decision now you can be aesthetic the is the only way you could I could improve would be okay he's given the generals what they want which I and I don't think he knew really given the blank check that one in Afghanistan but let's assume that he's a he's one step ahead of them and that is going to end up come back in 2 or 3 years and say look at this is failed completely now I am gonna ... withdraw because we lost our regional ... ... motive for a wee bit winners home reason for us to continue with it says unwinnable a situation and ... in other words he turns around ultimately and now he's got to political wherewithal to fly right now that doesn't address your point though however that the deep state is in charge when really push comes to shove and ... I do believe that you need a strong is aware that his wife is on the line or the head of his children and grandchildren ... so I but I I wonder about that after we well burned $1000000000000 killed a couple 0 Afghanis or some on nobody knows but it's going to be here owe a huge toll oh yeah here you know that saying once weapons were manufactured to fight wars now wars are manufactured to sell weapons yeah as long as there's profit driven activity anywhere the color big pharma college war call it you know the war for drugs instead of war on drugs it's a status quo will remain the same yeah it's it's ... discouraging now isn't it now yeah that is the military industrial complex you know the whole Lougheed hurler Martin Raytheon Northrop Grumman you name it SAIC scientific applications a or national corporate there that that's part of the whole 911 thing but yeah yeah I would even do I mean ... I write on my blog for example that's one way I can help ... pointed out a lot of these things take a look I am one article on my blog for example that just looks at a defense expenditure in the nineties okay at the other end memory gonna get the big peace dividend after a 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union and the hand of an aggressive it was thought aggressive international communist era menace well what happened well we we followed along then that defense spending actually was Laurer 8 years later and then in nominal dollars and in real dollars of course is ... hit shrunk so was very clear they needed a new enemy lo and behold you know does the Teaneck because the the the the I usually new American century yeah project thank you Mel a project for a new American century okay in the absence of the under Pearl Harbor type of plan ... we're probably not going to get this a new century of American hegemony are not only a global but ... in deep space now what would your brain on something that I've been pondering for quite some time and everybody looks at North Korea has this bogeyman I mean we haven't been talking about Iran's lately which I find strange but it's North Korea North Korea North Korea but in my opinion correct me if I'm wrong I look at China as the target there because I think that China wants to they want to have the the the build good ought to be the leader of pain the foreign reserve currency in the future and that's why I think they're only loading the treasury's they went for I think from 1.3000000000000 to 1.one and now Japan is number one I think but they they wonder you want to go out there want to be number one do you think this is the real full site is in China and not North Korea okay ... on North Korea maybe seeing this one ... picture I guess it's a satellite picture and it shows it's a night time on that Korean peninsula and I assume it's for real baby secret South Korea all lit up course North Korea has mostly dark well I tell you something how big a threat are they to you know America this looks like a completely phony threat and ... Kim il Sloan rara however his name is ... sorry him ... is Spelman pronounced up is a ifetch to yeah because Hey he looks around the world they say he's a you know how to Solman does the American commands they might just ... overturn your government so I need and nuclear weapons to determine this so it makes a certain amount of sense if you think deterrence so works and there's something to it sits are now what gain this year according to China is ... reminds me about the what the neocon saying you know the little boy just wanna go to to Teheran but the big boys want to ... well ... if Baghdad bag that I got that ... inverted there a little boys want to go to Baghdad and the boys want to go to Teheran right then enter you know Iran is people know it's 3 times the size of California for openers you know it's an immense mostly mountainous country and you're gonna go in there and not conquer them only I don't think so you know yeah so although we're gonna do the drones that little ... is just it's so easy to get into a war now isn't it especially when nana no wars going to make money reports people yeah but it's hard to end up looking to get a no comment about not China is an ambitious government and people and ... they're there but there there is no need to ... who risked war with no other being om and productive people's but don't you think that if they if you look at their balance sheets but that but you know I'm looking at how they were planning to be number 1 business power by 2020 and it already happening 2016 I believe correct me if I'm wrong there but are you not what the highest GDP exactly yeah exactly in that looking at the way their race and their their their you on don't they want to be the world's global currency there for me even though years ago when Brazil Russia India China South Africa were joining forces to have this basket of currency call breaks and all of a sudden nobody talks about it anymore what have interests that was ... media greed is the high there China has also ... I'm at a bit of a fake economy you know you talk about being ... flying out and phony money that's part of the M. you on a problem that would be it the acceptability of that money versus the US dollar still I even heard it remember this is just kind of who is the tallest midget in the room power it's still standing tall partly because of our historic love respect for private property and ... this we're still largest economy in the world not a lot but now I got to dress not only you but the the president on this question of up running deficits honor your balance of trade you know them but that day objection au they've stolen all of our industry well here's the problem we owe we work that out right up through Nixon we didn't run chronic ... tree yeah imbalances or trade deficits and the moment the reasoning is that gold is an automatic balancing a mechanism now we don't have that because of all these ... central banks and nearly every economy in the world no matter how small is a central bank well I'm a counterfeiter in a money order because if you if you're on a gold standard and you're running a deficit that means your goal is out flowing okay that'll ... bring down your prices and price level and data raise your competitiveness and on the contrary but when you don't allow real money flows you don't get these corrections it's an automatic so it's like so many things all these government interventions of short circuit or cut the cord to market corrections you gotta let market corrections works I take what what happened look at our meltdown and overweight or not okay now I'm I'm not favor of booms that inevitably they are inevitably lead to a bust but you should let the if it's gonna happen let the bus to work okay it'll be over in 1218 months markets can correct that's what they're about so why do we keep bailing out banks and insurance companies and all you know automotive company a been why then it's crony capitalism should yeah it's the big money people I thought I was looking at 1 of my articles here but ... JFK and 911 a little while ago and you you've got to this situation where David Rockefeller you know ran the chase bank which was a big oil back and now we got chased Morgan she had the house of Morgan and the Rockefellers wealth finally merged and they were rivals on on some issues not on having the federal reserve ... you yeah eat the oh man I lost my thought not of the ... the because of the Rockefeller involvement with a big oil ... they okay we here's the thought have recovered it tarp you remember tar bush okay so the chase bank got $25000000000 of cuts a tarp bailout money in a one of them chase bankers was overheard ugh to say you know we don't really need this but they sure can help us in our acquisition program so they're just part of the you know the power elite and they're in there they're gonna get theirs can we safely say I mean of course we don't know precisely unless you have a list well who really owns the federal reserve a when people hear that term old the federal reserve they say but wait a minute Morgan Mel the federal reserve is a federal agency with the you know all the this money with they have neither no it's not federal and then how many research it's butter all these banks Wells Fargo bank of America announced chase I think those are the 3 big ones that are standing now they must be part owners of the federal reserve these people in my opinion rule the United States and anywhere else a has a central bank around the world okay I saw an interview well there with the the CNBC guide was the year economics guy scheme whatever's Namys he's interviewing William Dudley is the president of the New York branch of the federal reserve wishes the course that financial center in the world yet and he's talking about how ... yeah these this hurt can damage will ultimately lift the economy so they're not gonna change there are quarterly forecasts very much and ... this is the area though ... window breaking fallacy that French economist Bosnia wrote about ... in the 18 room forties up you know destruction of your capital stock here in your infrastructure is a good thing well is is is it's complete nonsense but okay we're we're well aware of where he come from Goldman Sachs he worked as a chief economist for Goldman Sachs were over 2 decades and who is on his board Goldman Sachs JP Morgan chase that sucker out right so they they have a monthly meeting other on the inside so it's it's very open do you think there's still a government off the people when you have this revolving door not only when it comes to economics I mean you mention the hurricanes I think this is this astra capitalism at its best look what happened in in that Houston Florida and then now you have this hurricane well when the show airs who knows were most it would have landed but it's making these 360 degree turns I mean I had 180 degree turns on his going back almost as if it's being mechanized steered Sam wasn't he N. N. left in certain places for a prolonged period of time which in my opinion I'm not a mere alternate meteorologist but a hurricane moves it does not stay for 3 days just like I know you've interviewed doctor Judy would now where the towers going by the way folks we just jumping around because that's they'll be area of research for a loose connection exactly you remember you VT I presume you have read the book where did the towers go most people don't know there was a hurricane standing east of New York City for days irked her can errand and the media hardly even discuss that yeah you know I I came across a Skyler physicist named ... James Makeni I don't know if you've heard of him but ... yeah I I wasn't impressed with it Alex Jones interviewed him the other day and ... what ... Makeni is gonna Emmaus in physics at least in terms of degree what he argues is that are satellites via lasers can arm steer storms some good and the storm is ... the hurricanes that we're talking about ... didn't develop off the west coast of Africa but he says warm water has nothing to do with it it did these are electrical phenomenon he didn't say they were up electro magnetic but arm and that you eat June he had many breakthroughs in the nineties a particular working with all his some counterparts in Russia in not only can you steer the slayings of with the technology they got he climbs ... but you can also ... change the sizes of these things so it is the reason this has some plausibility I can't speak with authority because I don't know enough about the physics but they got ... and he argues that one reason I I find it plausible is that the military for many decades did research on weather modification because I want to weaponize whether whether so important and now well military conflicts so if you can ... out maneuver your your opponent ... that works very well but the problem then is are are these governments in the use of this on their own populations so this I can't James Makeni is a very frustrated means I did this because you could scare off her canes into the amended Landeck where they would do little or no harm but now they're they're sharing the room ... to do math at maximum damage she claimed in Florida but they messed it up to a certain extent well they they didn't get ... all they wanted now model but I was talking to my wife about this issue as well what would be the motive you know they didn't do well on that very much but here it would be my ... bottom line up fear fear F. E. A. R. church and state depend on fear okay work and that what they say is we're going to offer you comfort we're going out where we're going to save you okay and you see this big time right that does the victims of ... hurricanes arm and rely on government to a certain extent and as well as open hearted ... charity and and our emergency ... private groups and so on but ... near me inspire fear you can get paid look look at 911 right look at how much a mile if they got now on 911 and so I don't know why as I am I mean you're saying this mildly I'm saying to me there's something to it you can have all the secret military ... research on issues like this that can help them and all that they they brought up another interesting point which I am not ... researched yet but supposedly there was a you ran this would be like 2003 here so ... you and ... up treaty propose we see our most governments in the world of voted to endorse but not the U. S. regarding weaponization of weather and supposedly are on record the U. S. government ... objected to the clause that would prohibit ... use of low where there weaponization against your own population so I don't know I was put in for drama or not done it's a great full fathom dominance by the year 2020 so there you go full spectrum yeah you know looking at these hurricanes enough for anybody who's a weather geek if you have been following these Hyrcanus specialist let's begin with Harvey usually when I look at a radar I see the weather systems moving you know from east to west or west to east up above the United States for companies to these green patches moving and when I looked at Harvey for the longest time you saw these when the green patches emanating from a specific area but Mr looking into it I found that there were industrial plants that were emitting a lot of vapor but we have heard that NASA has the facilities in in the Alabama I believe that they are in the middle of nowhere 50000 acres in the middle of nowhere and they pretend to be a research team rocket when in reality they have just you know tons of vapor coming out of there that creates weather patterns everywhere else and it rains in Mississippi or in Florida but anyway regarding the Texas I so these you know emanating green little things on the computer and the same thing happens west of Africa almost if something tells me that there's something in one of these countries in West Africa that creates all these papers that create something that is going to be moved west and this is the precursors of what we now call hurricanes coming to the Caribbean yeah it could be that deserves further investigation on my part Kitty sure but it just shows ... can go back to our ... regional under discussion regarding government lying yeah I think there's something wrong on this here so ... it I'm I'm just not as well informed on the weather topic is I would be and on some of the others we've discussed thus far well that's fine and I'm just thinking back in 1992 when I went through hurricane Andrew immediately after the hurricane happen of course you know but but but a lot of people suffered and or billions of dollars the biggest national natural disaster ever in other happen in the United States but I remember the insurance premiums the sky rocketed and it's incredible how much people pay now for hurricane insurance in Florida so if you have a mortgage you have to do that so that's a huge profit increase for the insurance industry by you have all these her kids at our protein now same thing is going to happen yes ... but ... Accorsi insurance companies are and can well I'm stay in business if they're really in business independently ... unless they can now price well those risks accurately so I'm in favor of that ... but they they're real problem and is you know one of the reasons that Houston for example ... suffered so much under this Harvey is because of subsidized flood insurance right Pequot Pete people not have ... I'm we don't have market pricing that ... really tells people are is this a good place to locate or not and ... David stockman are those the famous Reagan appointee of years ago and is a brilliant guy here article recently where he also loves him part of the blame on Houston ship channel which is a factor 15 miles inland from like golf and ... news gotta have the D. O. water court here well that that's true nanny not gonna be a good idea and you better one of these these hurricanes that you're gonna cover on so some cities are are in a real solution no the real problem though is what it is you raise that ... before I did I think we're about steering these things and controlling these things and that that was well 1 of the issues ... with 911 where doctor will brought up for weird Hey look this hurricane thing here no she wasn't directly ... claimed that the energy to turn the twin towers to find us rom list provided by Erin but it does look the point is that ... yeah there was this peculiar behavior that has straight line in nam up from the Carolinas this hurricane and nobody ever mentioned it well there was some mentioning of this thing eyes turned quickly almost a right angle to see but perhaps you need a static field we're saying this to world that need investigation here by independent thinkers by the way not to get too political but you know I remember back in 1989 when hurricane Hugo Hugo hit the Caribbean I was work working for a company called dun Bradstreet tried to go in and audit businesses and I remember going there after the disaster and seen how many businesses were underground not because of the hurricane but because of looting and at the only businesses that's good strong were the people who went on top of the roofs with weapons defending their property and I thought this is the right thing to do try to call my 11 during a hurricane if you're lucky to have a phone robot is going to show up but now this year they did that in the Virgin Islands they actually went door to door to the registered gun owners to Rick and they confiscated guns and ammo what's your take on that well I didn't read it too by the way in favor of armed citizens yeah yeah I remember removing confiscating they did that during Katrina to all legal I just her gun owners they did all the criminals had their guns but they didn't know what the legal you know owners were I know it that's one of the ... problems with concealed carry licenses for example right near the authorities know I have guns my question is why would they be confiscating guns at a time when citizens would need them the most because first responders police and so on will not be able to respond in a timely fashion why do they do that well well well it's more government bad policy the question is what where the motives right yeah I keep the sheeple sheeple right near your stripping us citizens of their right of self defense which is okay so fundamental right we grant this to animals really self defense right just right and you're taking away the primary tool you know when you talk about her yeah arm our defense of businesses against looters well yeah I remember when they had the LA riots were happening was set in the must of been in the sixties right of and then again in 92 and yeah maybe it was one of these more recent incidents but how do you had ... career not shop orders it said I remind you see him up patrolling up on the second floor she was actually that is a deterrent now isn't it but isn't that proof that these were the only businesses that survived because they were able to exercise their right to to move to bear arms at the right time right yeah you know I saw us saw some news item that I really didn't give it and he and he taught us that will this is typical was this the U. S. through the British Virgin Islands by the way U. S. Virgin Islands Wayne Thomas increasing John room no the others with the other ones have it out like to have guns they're just like it is in Europe I'm but anyway I don't need to spend time on this where we have so many topics discussed AB let's start talking about NASA and the moon and they will get it on the other side after we come back from the break but let's just we have about 5 minutes NASA because the van Allen belt an impenetrable barrier in space Morgan if that's the case how did that pit how did they penetrated 6 times then yeah yeah well under trips to the moon Graeme yeah I guess so well ... we had Apollo 13 that the engineer to have loved at a terrible time of it too high Linda real cold out there in space even though you get full sunlight unimpeded sunlight but yeah parent your bull well this would be an admission ... against interest as the lawyers would put it now would it be because ... all year thing Hey wait a minute how did they know and send that many and the moon and ... return safely right and ... well you know what I had I was just looking at a link of mine where I was I referenced some ... or Ryan ... scientists employed by NASA in which he admitted I I don't know whose it just an incident mission or what but he said we don't have the radiation protection we need to ... manage a admission to mark's right so the end okay that would take a year with the current technology they're talking about but Tom the whole radiation is the number one problem up for trying to verify a a landing on the moon it just didn't happen none of them happened so for example it what you've got is well you mentioned the van Allen belt which is ... considered to be about to run but it goes out as much as 50000 miles that's a that's what makes the earth and I are such a sweet spot right the earth benefit so but Allah is a is it a life giving out planet yeah so it's it's a loaded with radiation at that's why they can only and do low earth orbit but they've done for us nearly 50 years that's all it done okay L. you that's one source one of the ... damaging our sources it then you have in just in general you have galactic cosmic rays they're all over the place there's micro meteorites as well and ... meteorites and then you've got guess what the sun we used to call it duh well that now they call it solar particle emissions as peas ... yeah just flares where's where the sun just the news out to hurt me enormous amounts of radiation and in this book that I mentioned earlier dark moon by the 2 British authors they point out that ... during the Apollo missions and I think here they're talking about the 6 well that actually claim to be ... ... whom landings there were 16.9 sun flares or solar particle of dance are per day per day this is tremendous stuff and all it does is are these the use of US space suits that were actually named by Playtex they know what is so good looking things together Playtex you know the other then they got no particular no protection there's no atmosphere protecting well this is the Apollo astronauts on the moon so the radiation is the showstopper and some are scientists and ... pointed this out but the trouble with so much of this and and the engineering and physical science a community traces back to government they are very dependent on government for licensing certification and money and this is corrupted the universities and it puts the old man up in their profession in charge of who gets what and guess what they're not going to be the innovators they're gonna defend ... there're quote breakthroughs of 30 years ago right so the whole the whole thing is upside down it's like one of my up oceanography friends is they see said about the university's it's a system in which the old exploit the arm you know I'm just thinking of the temperature differentials when they're sunlight hitting the moon in temperature can hit 253 degrees are one on 23 cells use and when the dark side of the moon or the far side you know you can help temperatures dipping to minus 243 or 153 Celsius the space suits did not have any kind of protection no no gold around them to protect the the astronaut the the the capsule did not the Hasselblad camera did not in the differential between cold and hot would have just not please disable date rolls of film it's for anybody who continues to say we definitely went to the moon at least they should be able to get answers to these fundamental questions there are so many things wrong course with the the moon landing prod the hoax it's it's a hoax you know is just and you know I've written on this and actually had a couple pieces ... about this I'm the Lou Rockwell.com ... biggest libertarian website in the world and it was amazing to me you can ... point out later the JFK ... assassination was a of a plot LBJ basically her Hey who benefits you know the queen bono LBJ center and yet he's not a lot though than the main suspect okay yet you can write on that you can write on us well Pearl Harbor okay that FDR and his henchmen I'm basically arranged and pressured to Japanese and attacking goal that all right there because we have to break the 2 sectors and you basically given us the talking points what's coming next boats we have more of the Apollo moon landings were faked my opinion the where $150000000000 swindle on mine mankind especially the United States taxpayer JFK assassination lies we're talking about false flags in the history of initiation of war bar harbor we discussed this before was 1 quick arranged but if DR and company more lies of an 1116 years after and the current trump contratar we need to discuss this because there's this seems to be a coup the tar happening slowly I got some news today saying that they're trying to poison person tribe he loves to drink diet soda and they're giving him too much and we all know what NutraSweet and aspartame can do to your brain but all of this when we come back how can people learn more about your work professor Reynolds go to my blog blog means you can comment critically Earl maybe on the plus side it's no more games.net no more games.net thanks much more with professor Morgan rails when we come back hopefully he'll beat me in the members section this is Mel family gas and you're listening to very tasks don't go anywhere n't of this very important they were just interview listen to the rest all of our archive material go to the I'm nnova //
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Morgan Reynolds. Ph.D. - 1 of 2 - The Fed, Moon Landings, False Flags, & The Deep State
\\has been almost 50 years just landed on the moon and 16 since the attacks on 911 do you believe the official story about both defense those who would reject this hypothesis simply because the government and the US would never lie to us about this or that clearly do not have a lucid understanding of history they lied about the JFK assassination the line up of the Vietnam War the Gulf Tonkin incident they lied about 911 the line about Iraq demonstrating a clear history of establishment subterfuge now this hoax claim it does contain a fair bit of conjecture but we should be careful to separate data from fact we sometimes too easily fall into a trap of dismissing someone attain hatter without looking at the data but the more clearly concerns either a they destroyed mission data schematics of footage because they were covering their trail or be they were trying to keep the technology from the rivals lest we forget there was a Cold War going on at the time V. seems slightly more unlikely because of the immense effort it would take to get to the moon I would not wish to jettison all that information also why haven't we returned to the moon either a it was a ridiculously expensive exercise the first time with no real tangible benefits for any government wishing to go on such a mission could be they didn't go the first time what we think subsequent missions would be more cost effective because of all the available mission data from the first mission just like with JFK than 11 etcetera perhaps we will never know conclusively reading some host melt Bamberger's but to listen to tonight's full interview in all the for material you know what to do by now discography Rita's radio.com and subscribe I dissect all of this tonight special guesses at Morgan Reynolds PhD a professor emeritus at Texas a and M. university and former director of the criminal justice center at the national center for policy analysis headquartered in Dallas Texas he served as chief economist for the U. S. department of labor during 2003 under George W. bush's first term his website is think and veritas radio.com I he'd choices directly from hot springs village Arkansas look the first rate also welcome to very test good to be with him now thanks for the invitation I always enjoy a conversation about weighty matters absolutely may call you board and by the way yes please do thank you well first of all were you able to discuss all of these topics now that you are retired I mean back when you were not retire you're teaching we able to discuss all these topics will be the second tonight you know it was a matter of me learning as I went to a I was you I felt free on economic issues including economic policy analysis for example but that was part of my income was not being a policy ... want for the national center for policy analysis which is a market oriented a firm a nonprofit think tank so I did that so those there was some you know there's a high degree of intellectual freedom but I've got to say when I retired I felt liberated now I could do to go step outside of my training role as an economist and ... go well much more widely and boldly and if I'd stayed on the faculty well actually you know one of the things that happened was ... Robert gates was president of Texas a and M. university and now ... for a whole 5 when I did this article that ... got some notoriety got some notice it it ... wind outside my normal a readership or bounds and ... people a few people plated up and is a former bush should a few Cheney official questions on 911 and ... ... Robert gates of course these famous CRTs Lou and I guess a couple of jurors terms as a DOD secretary and ... unmanned I don't respect he's a smart guy operator but after that it plummets anyway he said ... that anyone who ... questions 911 is beyond the pale that was the shorthand version and the other time my a blog got no more games.net you can find it there but ... ... that shoes ... the it and I I actually criticize that in this ... volume yeah American intellectual speak out on 911 let me pick that up the well very well known David ray Griffin and Peter Dale Dale Scott to add is that this body emits called 911 in American empire intellectual speak out and ... that articles on my blog but there are ... Leonard I call that it was ... my point about it was that gate didn't live up to the mission statement at Texas a and M. university and ... the articles called 911 Texas a and M. university and heresy eerie saying this most important political event of of the 20 first century is all wrapped up will we all know what we saw it was part of his statement well Hey this is an important ... it's it's the most important political event data of the 20 first century so that shows ... then that helps us get a bearing on how liberated I was so I am and ... you know now the Kennedy once said that ... who here and ... one of the articles that ... he says ... that ... enough tract Hey you know the the world I thought I was dealing with I found out it wasn't the real world so ... I in 911 was a a had a big impact on me ... them it in that once I owe left my job as chief economist run at the US department labor which was kind of fun but it was ... I was just intellectual armor for secretary ... Elaine Chao who stayed down to well both bush terms and now she's secretary transportation right she's highly respectable person but she is a not gonna Sheik anything outward or do anything ... dramatic to sentence Cixous up and there's lord knows there's a lot of problems with the U. S. and the world so yeah it's been very liberating and ... I along with Bobby Kennedy and many others have learned a lot that ... in the last 16 years Bobby Kennedy of course a somebody who's really pushing forward the anti vaccine movement and the fact that I'm saying this not because I'm an anti ad that movement I'm totally in favor of la not vaccinating but that's I I get attacked all the time when I look at California and the fact that they're doing a comes in a compulsory manner there and that's that's beyond my money my logic Giba di a couple things that that just occurred to me number one now since we're talking about you mentioned Bobby Kennedy you taken mandatory vaccination and number 2 having been a chief economist you take on the federal reserve and the bubbles that we continue to experience every few decades no no the federal reserve yeah that's the ... followed evolves the work of the devil can be dramatic about it well that that if I were elected president which ain't gonna happen ... and naturally but ... that me my first goal would be to get rid of the federal reserve because printing funny money is the ... the source of the welfare workers state which is unsustainable yeah right and both aspects of the course are we are headed to ... ... a complete meltdown ultimately the federal government to just pass the $20000000000000 national grant and then that doesn't even include these ... $50000000000000 worth of promises well that the welfare state is made and there what ultimately happens is that there there there is gonna be a default each either hard defaulters soft useful so this goes beyond ... that the problem of that business cycles the boom bust is is a product of artificially low interest rates and ... funny money in early the problem started ... ... in recent history Weller's continue a Hey when they founded it yeah we know that there's going to be problems now that the ... when we need us money that means go basically okay so hers a tag along I like silver to ... but precious metals limit they then found a way to print well gold so ... that's the day it's the people's money ultimately that's what your people preferring and as late as the up to 1910 or thereabouts a yeah 40 percent of the money supply was gold and silver that's that's real money okay so ... if the federal reserve of big because that Hey how can you borrow $2 well the good the reason is that the people the the bond holders and the ... treasury bill holders the in other words the lenders of believe that they will be are their money safe there ... they'll get it back plus the interest ... big because of the federal reserve so if you put the yeah you get rid of federal reserve and you have real money ... a course during wars these ... historically these governments would go off but let's take the syllable word of word Yankee Krashen however labeled other than that that was the greenback and Lincoln was the greenback president but ... there was enough morality ... gush Ross standards that ... these governments would always return where after some years ... tune need a precious metal standards and let me make one more point Richard Nixon ... Hey when Pete a 8/15/1971 he cut the last link between the U. S. dollar and gold and even though it was a it's a thank the international gold standard that only matter between governments but it really mattered ... you had it I'll restrain Europe training ... because Hey look got a government like France would come by and say Hey I want to turn it all these dollars for gold and that's when Nixon close the gold window well that freed the federal reserve from the last respectability constraint took print the S. so that's why we're it it's an absurd situation now what where ... our our federal reserve chieftains including the current one the school marm ... Yellin it's it eh they don't have a clue when I was just they are a Keynesian slash monitor this weird without ... there the old fashioned I'll link some talking about they don't ... that they think you can yeah centrally manage the economy there's no reason for example to have government any government bureau of call it there a private banking bureau to ... ... target or manage interest rates that should just be an interaction should be a market phenomenon that's the most important price road penetrates throughout the economy and it's simply an erection between ... savers and yeah ultimately investors yeah borrowers and lenders go there's a new there's no love real point to it except government Accorsi well as a close link with banking it's follow the money no problem in retrospect when you look at Nixon by the way let me just say this from the beginning it's such a breath of fresh air to be speaking with somebody who comes directly from academia but who speaks the truth and I'm not sensing that you're trying to to to change your worst to pacify the authority I you know I've I've had many professors who have interviewed in the past and you can tell you can tell the walk a fine line and I'm glad that you're speaking with that any censorship but I appreciate the let's hope that all the interview can be like that but speed on the Nixon and and the end of the comfort ability of US dollars you think he made a golden era by doing this in the recent was to finally remove the last last leash that the federal reserve had I do know that Nixon ... was so shounen now for to really think his way through it and he was surrounded by need the same the same Keynesian mentality ... I'm trying to remember the one professor at a university in Michigan at the time was a gardener Ackley Clara I think so the of famous macroeconomic a textbook author and I don't think Nixon you know Nixon was a and many ways a clever politician but I don't think he was principal dirt shooter and ... monetary ... matters to have a real an ideological love position on it I might be wrong but that that would fit with the Nixon more generally and ... so he he just did the expedient thing and I have more important he thought more important matters like of that managing the Vietnam War getting us out of that recognizing China and someone that was his name how you know contributions you could say the legacy what's going to be my legacy so it was that easy ... it short term and expedient to close the gold window and besides you know he puppy that included the package with wage and price controls that shows you how how little they knew no oh yeah you know big businesses raising prices no it's it has to do with our supply and demand for money and inflation is earns Milton Friedman said well it is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon so he took the easy way out when a real interested here's now they yeah you could have assisted them in business and it would have been a temporary suspension and we got to get our house in order and there's nothing wrong with deflate anarchy even though of the the powers that be constantly all lawyer goodness we can't have a a falling price level Hey what could I think about the other comment ... people come our way and we all enjoy falling prices entered its not only objections are are are ridiculous and ... up capitalism properly understood of course of does involve economic growth entrepreneurship technological advance arm seedings being converted of treating moralist wisely into productive assets are rising real wages are a lot of good things that ... I'm most people would concur and Hey this is the way and cut higher productivity with a constant money supply once this thing is money you don't need anymore you cannot really only destroy neo wealth producing process so ... but the whole thing about that is that the rational for bush instead are I am in the process right now of destroying so it is it's because I had a I and I know a lot about the marketplace and ... though many people of course ... I'll at least once upon a time in the university's once they encounter any of free market oriented economists they change their call of politics most Americans they don't really understand the federal reserve to me the USA was hijacked in 1913 and most people most politicians if they want to come out as industry of yours for the American people they say we need to audit the federal reserve I honestly honestly like you let's abolish it you know they are the federal reserve of reveals part a bit so even less by resisting an audit in it a true independent audit and of course ... Ron Paul famously is trading at a get this to happen and at minimum it'd Barris's them into of fighting it tooth and nail what do you guys trying hard on it you know what about that goal do we really have it I'm so yeah you you mentioned the federal reserve you know 1913 I've argued in front of my students on occasion is of that the poorest understood worst year in American history because 3 bad things happen 1 you had the first federal reserve authorized it but I was like yeah on December 24 when ... then the American people we didn't really well to the extent they knew anything they oppose the European central bank but here they pass it at midnight on Christmas Eve federal reserve yet and then you had a income tax on non business and personal incomes ... and then you have the ... a direct election of U. S. senators which seems like a minor thing but up until then senators were delegates by state legislatures and that meant they were ... I'm a subject to immediate recall when the legislators ... legislature majority of found it they were incompetent or ... ... not acting in the best interest of the state to enter a ... kind of us component of states rights and decentralize political power also what you have direct election of course although the campaign money can come across borders big time but when your delegate that's a different ... I'm prestige and and ... employment status than it is today where US senators are thought to be a big big deal most of them would be recalled if he still had that that that that the way we used to do it in the past I think so yeah yeah yeah yeah you know I used to think well maybe this whole emphasis on state and local governments and ... it being close to the people isn't as important because I am a personal and follow up on it much more closely national events that's my thing but it is true that they are special in local governments ... charities counties you know which are are really established by the the state governments as ... administrative subdivisions are they acquire a of certain local power because they are close to people and and ... ye yeah this decentralized and decentralizing aspect your is is powerful what you've got a government down at the county level much less city ... township level so I ended on the politicians have got to live with those conditions true so there's a lot of good aspects of this and that's why this ... switch to direct election but US senators ... was it that may be a third rank up these bad things that happened but still it's it's another important go of centralizing non evil that does lead to some many of our troubles today if you and I were to enter Fort Knox today what will we find ... wouldn't that be great yes let's do that now yeah it's our money that is not the government is saying these are your state parks are these are your National Park City enjoy them but don't you know litter it senator well yeah well they are going to show us that aren't that yeah which makes it all the more suspicious so that you know there's so many yeah you mean you mentioned at the outset about a government lying and that's of my initial US belief or course I any controversial issue which I would have said that ... 20 years ago as recently as 20 years ago but now we anything that's important or suspicious you know the government is lying I visited for example of Roswell New Mexico because we were on a and R. D. trip this was ... now I maybe a year ago well late winter I never been there and they had this wonderful museum and that at the outset that ... they they have a sign that says this was established by 3 businessmen it has no connection with government so I set up I I'm gonna give them a break and maybe respect some of the evidence they show me about what happened it back in ... July 1947 or didn't happen and I thought for sure I would ... get enough but information from other that this it and there were lots lots of fascinating things there but ... I never really did make up my mind about whether this was a a send up of men ... on this ranch 30 miles outside of Roswell or ... and that you know their very lives of a book by Mary Bennett and David S. Percy called dark moon Apollo and the whistle blowers and what they argue and I just don't know enough to really post an article about it they are you that something happening happened ... a real you a full that happened I believe it wasn't corona New Mexico you're not not there this rant show them in this mostly Norris of well Roswell right and cook and ... so hate up above point is it was very clear that government was lying because it would change his story ... ... every 12 to 2004 hours you know they were covering up but what were they covering up the so ... that's just one example I know the government was lying about it because you could see these reversals ... and immediately displays the evidence displayed in many they proposed a lot of people by the way ... in connection with the soul of man or were not of been for all we know go near Roswell but ... ... distraction now I'm stuck there perhaps to cover up love the real dent well not only that but just you say they changed their stories to the point that they really thought the American people are stupid and I'm saying this because years later the city was crash test dummies but crash test dummies hadn't been invented when this whole event happened and you know we would think that those who are creating these fake stories we think that in the future people will figure it out well okay ... and member of the weather balloon story grand a yeah the L. let me give you an example of this the way ... people in government thanks even if they're a good soul I thought who okay have run it like in the US department while labor during my stint there because they have a public information office well these are the spinners right I'm talking to one of the you know the gals there and we're all political appointees you know the the the up a monster bureaucracy but like the US our department labor has 16 or 17000 employees well most of which are of bureaucrats long term civil servants tied and but at the top there are people who who are political appointees and you get to change those and if you come and ... after election and ... so I'm a political appointee is chief economist ... this gal is to and I said you know what why don't I can't remember what the issue was but I said you know why don't we just tell the truth about this one because ... it it it's not gonna have any any real negative there kick back and said so for us for the long run I'm I was always frustrated with the Republicans because ... as a contrasted with leftist they don't owe really plays a long run gained a leftist will start out with some cultural or political or economic issue the scent this is absurd they're never going to get this done but they keep on shipment away and they get it done okay but she says her response is ... nobody's gonna remember tomorrow what we said yesterday also one no wait a minute yeah this kind of well for him the truth it adds up people who owe you know is that they're going to just say yeah I can't trust anything they say which show probably isn't is where we all are as being more realistic about government the the the you know what is it that's one thing so yeah public polls show is a ... racket declining and confidence in government since we're talking about it a good finisher step yellow light by a tag along ... taking on so there was well Donald Trump said one thing as a candidate and now as president while he's matured and cheered by the neocons and that this is a complete betrayal a supposedly his base trumps race ... hasn't noticed or or doesn't care but this is not gonna 16 long run well when I think of that I think that if you will get to that position of power and there's an embedded college shadow government governed behind the cover of whatever you wanna call it who recalls the shots I don't think that would allow him to mean yes read to you got us out of the DPP which is great has done some good stuff but there's some others like the perpetuation of war you know those are the things that he he said that he was gonna stop and it seems that he's going back as you said the neocon way yeah exactly I I agree with you that to hit on the war peace issue ... I gave up on and that with the Afghanistan decision now you can be aesthetic the is the only way you could I could approve would be okay he's given the generals what they want which I didn't I don't think he even really given the blank check that one in Afghanistan but let's assume he's a he's one step ahead of them and that he's gonna end up come back in 2 or 3 years and say look at this is failed completely now I am gonna ... withdraw because we lost our regional ... a motive or a wee bit winners home reason for us to continue with its a unwinnable a situation and ... in other words he turns around ultimately and now he's got to political wherewithal to fly right now that doesn't address your point though however that deep state is in charge when really push comes to shove up and ... I do believe that he'd a strong is aware that his wife is on the line or the head of his children and grandchildren ... so I but I I wonder about that after we well burned $1000000000000 killed a couple 0 Afghanis or some on nobody knows but it's going to be a ... a huge toll oh yeah yeah you know that saying once weapons were manufactured to fight wars now wars are manufactured to sell weapons yeah as long as there's profit driven activity anywhere we'll call the big pharma called war call it you know the war for drugs instead of war on drugs if the status quo will remain the same yeah it's it's so discouraging now isn't it well yeah that is the military industrial complex you know the whole Lougheed nerd Martin them Raytheon Northrop Grumman in and that is SAIC scientific applications a international corporate there that that's part of the whole 911 thing but yeah yeah we gonna do I mean ... I write on my blog for example that's one way I can help ... pointed out a lot of these things take a look I am one article on my blog for example that just looks at a defense expenditure in the nineties okay at the other end member we're gonna get the big peace dividend after a 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union and the end of an aggressive or it was thought aggressive international communist menace well what happened well we we bombed along then the defense spending actually was lower at 8 years later and then in nominal dollars and in real dollars our courses can hit shrunk so was very clear they needed a new enemy well on the whole you know though that the P. neck other the the that brought you 3 American century yeah project thank you Mel a project for a new American century okay in the absence of my under internal harbor a type of plan ... we're probably not going to get this a new century of American hegemony are not only a global book ... in deep space now I want a bigger brain on something that I've been pondering for quite some time and everybody looks at North Korea has this bogeyman I mean we haven't been talking about Iran's lately which I find strange but it's North Korea North Korea North Korea but in my opinion correct me if I'm wrong I look at China as the target there because I think that China wants to they want to have the the the build good already the leader of pain the foreign reserve currency in the future and that's why I think they're only loading the treasury's they went for I think from 1.3000000000000 to 1.one and now Japan is number one I think but they they wonder you want to go out there want to be number one do you think this is the real bull slightest in China and not North Korea okay ... on North Korea maybe seeing this one ... picture I guess it's a satellite picture and it shows it's a night time on that Korean peninsula and I assume it's for real baby secret South Korea all lit up course North Korea has mostly dark well it tells you something how big a threat are they to you know America this looks like a completely phony threat and ... Kim il sung are however his name is ... sorry him ... is Spelman pronounced up is a defensive yeah because Hey he looks around the world they say he's a you know how to Solman does the American commands they might just ... overturn your government so I need and nuclear weapons she'll let you turn this so it makes a certain amount of sense if you think deterrence so works and there's something to it she are now what gain this year according to China is there a reminds me about ... what the neocon saying you know the little boy just wanna go home to Teheran but the big boys want to ... well ... it baguette bag that I got that ... inverted there a little boys want to go to Baghdad in big boys want to go to Teheran right and and you know I ran is people know it's 3 times the size of California for openers you know it's an immense mostly mountainous country and you're gonna go in there and not conquer them only I don't think so you know yes solo we're gonna do the drawings that little of it is just it's so easy to get into a war now isn't it especially when not a ... wars going to make money reports people yeah but it's hard to end up we're going to get out now comment about not China is an ambitious government and people and ... they're there but there there is no need to ... who risked war with no other being arm and productive people's but don't you think that if they if you look at their balance sheets but didn't you know I'm looking at how they were planning to be number 1 business power by 2020 and it already happening 2016 I believe correct me if I'm wrong there but are you now what the highest GDP exactly yeah exactly in that looking at the way their race and their their their you on don't they want to be the world's global currency there for me river years ago when Brazil Russia India China South Africa were joining forces to have this basket of currency call breaks and all of a sudden nobody talks about it anymore what happened work so that was a media created the high there China has also opened up a bit of a fake economy you know you talk about being ... flying out and phony money that's part of the U. on a problem that would be it the acceptability of that money versus the U. S. dollar still or even not this remember this is just kind of who is the tallest midget in the room behind the whole hour it's still standing tall partly because of our historic low respect for private property and ... this we're still largest economy in the world Bubba but now I got to dress not only you but of the president on this question of up running deficits honor your balance of trade yet know them but the big objection au they've stolen all of our industry well here's the problem we owe we work up right up through Nixon we didn't run chronic or trade yeah imbalances or trade deficits and the room the reason is that goal is an automatic balancing a mechanism now we don't have that because of all these ... central banks at nearly every economy in the world no matter how small is a central bank well I'm a counterfeiter in a money order because if you if you're on a gold standard and you're running a deficit that means your goal is out flowing okay that'll of bring down your prices and price level and data raise your competitiveness and on the contrary but when you don't allow real money flows you don't get these corrections it's on automatic so it's like so many things only's government interventions of short circuit or cut the cord to market corrections you gotta let market corrections works I take what what happened look at our meltdown in overweight or not okay no I'm I'm not in favor of booms that inevitably they are and evidently lead to a bust but you should let the if it's gonna happen let the bus to work okay it'll be over in 1218 months markets can correct that's what they're about so why do we keep bailing out banks and insurance companies and all you know automotive company but why then it's crony capitalism sure it yeah it's the big money people up the truck I was looking at 1 of my articles here but ... JFK and 911 a little while ago and you you've got this situation where David Rockefeller you know Randy yet chase bank which goes big oil back in now we got chased Morgan she had the house of Morgan and the Rockefellers wealth finally merged it they were rivals on on some issues not on having the federal reserve so you yeah eat the oh man I lost my thought no idea the because of the Rockefeller involvement with a big oil ... they okay we here's the thought and recovered it tar you remember tar bush okay so the chase bank got $25000000000 of cuts a tarp bailout money is ... one of them chase bankers was overheard ugh to say you know we don't really need this but they sure can help us in our acquisition program so they're just part of the you know the power elite and nerve in the there gonna get theirs can we safely say I mean of course we don't know precisely unless you have a list well who really owns the federal reserve and what people use that term old the federal reserve they say but wait a minute Morgan Mel the federal reserve is a federal agency with the you know all the this money with they have neither no it's no federal and they don't have any research to butter all these banks Wells Fargo bank of America announced chase I think those are the 3 big ones that are standing now they must be part ... orders of the federal reserve these people in my opinion rule the United States and anywhere else that has a central bank around the world okay I saw an interview well there with the the CNBC guide was the economics guy scheme whatever's name season are going William Dudley is the president of the New York branch of the federal reserve wishes well worth it financial center in the world yet and he's talking about how ... yeah these this hurt can damage will ultimately lift the economy so they're not going to change their well quarterly forecasts very much and this is the video window breaking fallacy that French economist Bosnia wrote about ... in the 18 forties up you know destruction of your capital stock here in your infrastructure is a good thing well is is this it's complete nonsense but okay we're work where do where do you come from Goldman Sachs he worked as a chief economist for Goldman Sachs were over 2 decades and who is on his board Goldman Sachs you'd be Morgan chase that sucker out right so they they have a monthly meeting of their on the inside so it's it's very open do you think there's still a government off the people when you have this revolving door not only when it comes to economics I mean the you mention the hurricanes I think this is this Sasser capitalism at its best look what happened in in that Houston Florida and then now you have this hurricane well when the show airs who knows were close it would have landed but it's making these 360 degree turns I mean I had 180 degree turns on his going back almost Ecevit being mechanized steered Sam wasn't it N. M. left in certain places for a prolonged period of time which in my opinion I'm not a mere albeit meteorologist but a hurricane moves it does not stay for 3 days just like I know you've interviewed doctor Judy would now where the towers going by the way folks which is jumping around because that's they'll be area of research for a loose connection exactly you remember you V. I presume you have read the book where did the towers go most people don't know there was a hurricane standing east of New York City for days irked her can errand and the media hardly even discuss that yeah you know I I came across a Skyler physicist named ... James Makeni I don't know if you've heard of him but ... yeah I I wasn't impressed with it Alex Jones interviewed him the other day and ... what ... Makeni he's got it Emmaus and physics at least in terms of degree what he argues is that are satellites via lasers can arm dear storms some of it and the storm is ... the hurricanes that we're talking about the didn't develop off the west coast of Africa but he says warm water has nothing to do with it in these are electrical phenomena he didn't say they were up electro magnetic but I'm and you eat can he it had many breakthroughs in the nineties in particular working with our his some counterpart in Russia in not only can you steer the slayings of with the technology they've got he climbs ... but you can also ... change the sizes of these things so it is the reason this has some plausibility I can't speak with authority because I don't know enough about physics but they've got ... and he argues that one reason I I find it plausible is that the military for many decades did research on weather modification because I wanna weaponize whether whether so important and now well military conflicts so if you can now out maneuver your your opponent ... that works very well but the problem then is are are these governments in the use of this on their own populations so this I can't gender is a very frustrated you know I did this because you could scare off her canes into the amended Landeck where they would do little or no harm but now they're they're sharing the room ... to do math at maximum damage he claimed in Florida but they messed it up to a certain extent ... they they didn't get ... all they wanted now mile by Alice talking to my wife about this issue as well what would be the motive you know they didn't do well on that very much but here it would be my of bottom line of fear fear F. E. A. R. church and state depend on fear okay work and that what they say is we're going to offer you comfort we're going out where we're going to save you okay and you see this big time right that of the victims of ... hurricanes arm and rely on government to a certain extent ... as well as open hearted ... charity and and ... promotion see ... private groups and so on but ... fear me inspire fear you can get paid look look look at 911 right look at how much a mile if they'd gotten around 911 and it's so I don't know ... it as I am I mean you're saying this of mildly I'm saying to me there's something to it you can have all the secret military ... research on issues like this that can help them and all that they they brought up another interesting point which I have not duh research yet but supposedly there was a you ran this would be like 2003 or so ... UN arm up treaty propose which are most governments in the world of voted to endorse but not the U. S. regarding weaponization of weather and supposedly arm record the US government ... objected to the clause that would prohibit ... use of low where there weaponization against your own population well I don't know was put in for drama are not done it's like that full spectrum dominance by the year 2020 so there you go full spectrum yeah you know looking at these hurricanes you know for anybody who's a weather geek if you have been following these Hyrcanus specialist let's begin with Harvey usually when I look at a radar I see the weather systems moving you know from east to west or west to east up above the United States for companies to these green patches moving and when I looked at Harvey for the longest time you saw these when the green patches emanating from a specific area but Mr looking into it I found that there were industrial plants that were emitting a lot of vapor but we have heard that NASA has the facilities in in the Alabama I believe that they are in the middle of nowhere 50000 acres in the middle of nowhere and they pretend to be a research team rocket when in reality they have just you know tons of vapor coming out of there that creates weather patterns everywhere else and it rains in Mississippi or in Florida but anyway regarding the Texas I saw these you know emanating green little things on the computer in the same thing happens west of Africa almost if something tells me that there's something in one of these countries in West Africa that creates all these papers that create something that is going to be moved west and this is the precursors of what we now call hurricanes coming to the Caribbean yeah it could be that deserves further investigation on my part duty sure but it just shows ... can go back to our ... regional love discussion regarding government lie yeah I think there's something wrong on this here so ... it I'm I'm just not as well informed on the weather topic is I would be on on some of the others we discussed thus far well that's fine in and just thinking back in 1992 when I went through hurricane Andrew immediately after the hurricane happen of course you know but but but a lot of people suffered and or billions of dollars the biggest national natural disaster ever into that happen in the United States but I remember the insurance premiums the sky rocketed and it's incredible how much people pay now for her cane insurance in Florida so if you have a mortgage you have to do that so that's a huge profit increase for the insurance industry they have all these hurricanes that are approaching now same thing is going to happen yes ... but of course the insurance companies are and can't arm stay in business nuclear really in business independently ... unless they can now price well those risks accurately so I'm in favor of that ... but they they're real problem and is you know one of the reasons that Houston for example ... suffered so much under this Harvey is because of subsidized flood insurance right Pequot Pete people don't have ... I'm we don't have market pricing that ... really tells people are is this a good place to locate or not and ... David stockman other than the famous Reagan appointee of years ago and I was a brilliant that he had an article recently where he also loves him part of the blame on Houston ship channel which is a factor 15 miles inland from like golf and ... news gotta have the D. O. water court here well that that's so maybe not going to be a good idea and you bet one of these these hurricanes which are going to cover on so ... subsidies are are in a real solution no the the real problem though is what it is you raised it ... before I did I think were about steering these things and controlling these things and that that was well 1 of the issues ... with 911 where doctor would brought of forward Hey look this hurricane thing here no she doesn't directly ... claimed that the energy to turn the twin towers to find us Ron was provided by Erin but the point is that ... there there was this peculiar behavior that has straight line in nam up from the Carolinas this hurricane and nobody ever mentioned it well there was some mentioning of this thing I've turned quickly almost a right angle at just the but perhaps you need a static for healers there's things to world that need investigation here by independent thinkers by the way not to get too political but you know I remember back in 1989 when hurricane Hugo Hugo hit the Caribbean I was work working for a company called Donna Bradstreet tried to go in and audit businesses and I remember going there after the disaster and seen how many businesses were underground not because of the hurricane because of looting and at the only businesses that stood strong were the people who went on top of the roofs with weapons defending their property and I thought this is the right thing to do try to call my 11 during the hurricane if you're lucky to have a phone robot is going to show up but now this year they did that in the Virgin Islands they actually went door to door to the registered gun owners to Rick and they confiscated guns and ammo what's your take on that well my Katrina to why the way in favor of armed citizens yeah yeah I remember removing confiscating they did that during Katrina too old legal I just her gun owners they did all the criminals had their guns but they didn't know what the legal you know owners were I know it that's one of the problems with concealed carry licenses for example right the ... near sorties no I have guns but my question is why would they be confiscating guns at a time when citizens would need them the most because first responders police and so on will not be able to respond in a timely fashion why do they do that well well well it's more government bad policy the question is what where the motives right and I keep the sheeple sheeple right you're you're stripping us citizens of their right of self defense which is okay so fundamental right we grant this to animals really self defense read it you're right and you're taking away the primary tool you know when you talk about a yeah arm our defense of businesses against looters well yeah I remember when they ... the LA riots were happening was sent in the must of been in the sixties right 12 and then again in 92 and yeah maybe it was one of the more recent an incidence but how do you had ... crew real no shop orders it said I remind early ECM up patrolling up on the second floor exactly ... that is a deterrent now isn't it but isn't that proof that these were the only businesses that survived because they were able to exercise their right to to to bear arms at the right time right yeah you know I saw I saw some news item but I really didn't give it and he can he thought I said well this is typical was this the U. S. through the British Virgin Islands by the way U. S. Virgin Islands claim Thomas increasing John I'm no the others with the other ones have it out like to have guns they're just like it is in Europe I'm but anyway I don't need to spend time on this where we have so many topics discussed AB let's start talking about NASA and the moon and they will get it on the other side after we come back from the break but let's just we have about 5 minutes NASA because the van Allen belt an impenetrable barrier in space Morgan if that's the case how did they pit how did they penetrated 6 times Ben yeah yeah well under trips to the moon grain of yeah I guess so whether we had Apollo 13 that the engineer to have ... at a terrible time of it dry and the real cold out there in space even though you get full sunlight unimpeded sunlight but yeah parent your bull well this would be an end mission ... against interest as the lawyers would put it now wouldn't it bait because ... all unison Hey wait a minute how did they know and send that many who the moon and ... return home safely right and the well you know what I had I was just looking at a link of mine where I was I referenced some ... or Ryan ... scientists employed by NASA in which he admitted I I don't know who's in Justin innocent admission or what but he said we don't have the radiation protection we need to ... manage aim at mission to Mars right so the end okay that would take a year with the current technology they're talking about but Tom the whole radiation is the number one problem of 4 trying to verify a a landing on the moon it just didn't happen none of them happened so for example the what you've got is ... unit you mention the van Allen belt which is ... of considered to be about 2 Roma but it goes out as much as 50000 miles that's a that's what makes the earth and I are such a sweet spot right the earth benefit so come out as a is it a life giving out planet yeah so it's it's a loaded with radiation at that's why they can only do lower earth orbit what they've done for us nearly 50 years that's all it done okay L. you that's one source one of the ... and damaging arm sources and then you have in just in general you have galactic cosmic rays they're all over the place there's micro meteorites as well and ... meteorites and then you've got guess what the sun we used to call it duh well but now they call it solar particle emissions as peas ... it just flares where's where the sun just you lose out to hurt me enormous amounts of radiation and in this book that I mentioned earlier dark moon by the 2 British authors they point out that ... during the Apollo missions and I think here they're talking about the 6 well that actually claim to be ... ... landings there were 16.9 sun flares or solar particle of dance ... per day per day this is tremendous stuff and all we got is on these units are space suits that were actually made by Playtex it they know how to sew Earl good looking things together Playtex you know the other then they got no prick and no protection there's no atmosphere of protecting the Apollo astronauts on the moon so the radiation is the showstopper and some are scientists said ... pointed this out but the trouble with so much of homeless and and the engineering and physical science community traces back to government they are very dependent on government for licensing certification and money and this is corrupted the universities and it puts the old man up in their profession in charge of who gets what and guess what they're not going to be the innovators they're gonna defend ... there quote breakthroughs of 30 years ago right so the whole the whole thing is upside down it's like one of my oceanography friends is they see said about the university's it's a system in which the old exploit the young you know I'm just thinking of the temperature differentials when they're sunlight hitting the moon in temperature can hit 253 degrees are one on 23 cells use and when the dark side of the moon or the far side you know you can help temperatures dipping to minus 243 or 153 Celsius the space suits did not have any kind of protection no no gold around them to protect the the astronauts the the the capsule did not the Hasselblad camera did not in the differential between cold and hot would have does not please disable date rolls of film it's for anybody who continues to say we definitely went to the moon at least this should be able to get answers to these fundamental questions there's so many things wrong course with the the moon landing prod the hoax it's it's a hoax you know it's just and you know I've written on this and actually had a couple pieces ... about this I'm the Lou Rockwell.com ... biggest libertarian website in the world and it was amazing to me you can ... point out early the JFK ... assassination was a ... up plot LBJ basically Hey who benefits you know we borrow LBJ center and yet he's not a lot the Tolly main suspect okay yet you can write on that you can write on us well to harbor okay that FDR and his henchmen of basically arranged and pressured the Japanese and attacking the whole the whole right there because we have to break the 2 seconds and you basically given us the talking points what's coming next boats we have more of the Apollo moon landings were faked my opinion the world $150000000000 swindle on my end mankind especially the United States taxpayer JFK assassination lies we're talking about false flags in the history of initiation of war power harbor we discussed this before was 1 could arrange but if DR a company more lies of an 1116 years after and the current trump contratar we need to discuss this because there's this seems to be a coup the tar happening slowly I got some news today saying that they're trying to poison person trump he loves to drink diet soda and they're giving him too much and we all know what NutraSweet and aspartame can do to your brain but all of this when we come back how can people learn more about your work professor Reynolds go to my blog blog means you can comment critical your own making on the plus side it's no more games.net no more games.net thanks much more with professor Morgan rails when we come back hopefully you'll beat me in the members section this just melt Bamberger's and you're listening to very tests don't go anywhere nmrs part of this very important interview listen to the rest Oliver archive material go to the members //
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Morgan Reynolds. Ph.D. - 1 of 2 - The Fed, Moon Landings, False Flags, & The Deep State
\\has been almost 50 years just landed on the moon and 16 since the attacks on 911 do you believe the official story about both defense those who would reject this hypothesis simply because the government and the US would never lie to us about this or that clearly do not have a lucid understanding of history they lied about the JFK assassination the line up of the Vietnam War the Gulf Tonkin incident they lied about 911 the line about Iraq demonstrating a clear history of establishment subterfuge now this hoax claim it does contain a fair bit of conjecture but we should be careful to separate data from fact we sometimes too easily fall into a trap of dismissing someone attain hatter without looking at the data but the more clearly concerns either a they destroyed mission data schematics of footage because they were covering their trail or be they were trying to keep the technology from the rivals lest we forget there was a Cold War going on at the time V. seems slightly more unlikely because of the immense effort it would take to get to the moon I would not wish to jettison all that information also why haven't we returned to the moon either a it was a ridiculously expensive exercise the first time with no real tangible benefits for any government wishing to go on such a mission could be they didn't go the first time what we think subsequent missions would be more cost effective because of all the available mission data from the first mission just like with JFK than 11 etcetera perhaps we will never know conclusively reading some host melt Bamberger's but to listen to tonight's full interview in all the for material you know what to do by now discography Rita's radio.com and subscribe I dissect all of this tonight special guesses at Morgan Reynolds PhD a professor emeritus at Texas a and M. university and former director of the criminal justice center at the national center for policy analysis headquartered in Dallas Texas he served as chief economist for the U. S. department of labor during 2003 under George W. bush's first term his website is think and veritas radio.com I he'd choices directly from hot springs village Arkansas look the first rate also welcome to very test good to be with him now thanks for the invitation I always enjoy a conversation about weighty matters absolutely may call you board and by the way yes please do thank you well first of all were you able to discuss all of these topics now that you are retired I mean back when you were not retire you're teaching we able to discuss all these topics will be the second tonight you know it was a matter of me learning as I went to a I was you I felt free on economic issues including economic policy analysis for example but that was part of my income was not being a policy ... want for the national center for policy analysis which is a market oriented a firm a nonprofit think tank so I did that so those there was some you know there's a high degree of intellectual freedom but I've got to say when I retired I felt liberated now I could do to go step outside of my training role as an economist and ... go well much more widely and boldly and if I'd stayed on the faculty well actually you know one of the things that happened was ... Robert gates was president of Texas a and M. university and now ... for a whole 5 when I did this article that ... got some notoriety got some notice it it ... wind outside my normal a readership or bounds and ... people a few people plated up and is a former bush should a few Cheney official questions on 911 and ... ... Robert gates of course these famous CRTs Lou and I guess a couple of jurors terms as a DOD secretary and ... unmanned I don't respect he's a smart guy operator but after that it plummets anyway he said ... that anyone who ... questions 911 is beyond the pale that was the shorthand version and the other time my a blog got no more games.net you can find it there but ... ... that shoes ... the it and I I actually criticize that in this ... volume yeah American intellectual speak out on 911 let me pick that up the well very well known David ray Griffin and Peter Dale Dale Scott to add is that this body emits called 911 in American empire intellectual speak out and ... that articles on my blog but there are ... Leonard I call that it was ... my point about it was that gate didn't live up to the mission statement at Texas a and M. university and ... the articles called 911 Texas a and M. university and heresy eerie saying this most important political event of of the 20 first century is all wrapped up will we all know what we saw it was part of his statement well Hey this is an important ... it's it's the most important political event data of the 20 first century so that shows ... then that helps us get a bearing on how liberated I was so I am and ... you know now the Kennedy once said that ... who here and ... one of the articles that ... he says ... that ... enough tract Hey you know the the world I thought I was dealing with I found out it wasn't the real world so ... I in 911 was a a had a big impact on me ... them it in that once I owe left my job as chief economist run at the US department labor which was kind of fun but it was ... I was just intellectual armor for secretary ... Elaine Chao who stayed down to well both bush terms and now she's secretary transportation right she's highly respectable person but she is a not gonna Sheik anything outward or do anything ... dramatic to sentence Cixous up and there's lord knows there's a lot of problems with the U. S. and the world so yeah it's been very liberating and ... I along with Bobby Kennedy and many others have learned a lot that ... in the last 16 years Bobby Kennedy of course a somebody who's really pushing forward the anti vaccine movement and the fact that I'm saying this not because I'm an anti ad that movement I'm totally in favor of la not vaccinating but that's I I get attacked all the time when I look at California and the fact that they're doing a comes in a compulsory manner there and that's that's beyond my money my logic Giba di a couple things that that just occurred to me number one now since we're talking about you mentioned Bobby Kennedy you taken mandatory vaccination and number 2 having been a chief economist you take on the federal reserve and the bubbles that we continue to experience every few decades no no the federal reserve yeah that's the ... followed evolves the work of the devil can be dramatic about it well that that if I were elected president which ain't gonna happen ... and naturally but ... that me my first goal would be to get rid of the federal reserve because printing funny money is the ... the source of the welfare workers state which is unsustainable yeah right and both aspects of the course are we are headed to ... ... a complete meltdown ultimately the federal government to just pass the $20000000000000 national grant and then that doesn't even include these ... $50000000000000 worth of promises well that the welfare state is made and there what ultimately happens is that there there there is gonna be a default each either hard defaulters soft useful so this goes beyond ... that the problem of that business cycles the boom bust is is a product of artificially low interest rates and ... funny money in early the problem started ... ... in recent history Weller's continue a Hey when they founded it yeah we know that there's going to be problems now that the ... when we need us money that means go basically okay so hers a tag along I like silver to ... but precious metals limit they then found a way to print well gold so ... that's the day it's the people's money ultimately that's what your people preferring and as late as the up to 1910 or thereabouts a yeah 40 percent of the money supply was gold and silver that's that's real money okay so ... if the federal reserve of big because that Hey how can you borrow $2 well the good the reason is that the people the the bond holders and the ... treasury bill holders the in other words the lenders of believe that they will be are their money safe there ... they'll get it back plus the interest ... big because of the federal reserve so if you put the yeah you get rid of federal reserve and you have real money ... a course during wars these ... historically these governments would go off but let's take the syllable word of word Yankee Krashen however labeled other than that that was the greenback and Lincoln was the greenback president but ... there was enough morality ... gush Ross standards that ... these governments would always return where after some years ... tune need a precious metal standards and let me make one more point Richard Nixon ... Hey when Pete a 8/15/1971 he cut the last link between the U. S. dollar and gold and even though it was a it's a thank the international gold standard that only matter between governments but it really mattered ... you had it I'll restrain Europe training ... because Hey look got a government like France would come by and say Hey I want to turn it all these dollars for gold and that's when Nixon close the gold window well that freed the federal reserve from the last respectability constraint took print the S. so that's why we're it it's an absurd situation now what where ... our our federal reserve chieftains including the current one the school marm ... Yellin it's it eh they don't have a clue when I was just they are a Keynesian slash monitor this weird without ... there the old fashioned I'll link some talking about they don't ... that they think you can yeah centrally manage the economy there's no reason for example to have government any government bureau of call it there a private banking bureau to ... ... target or manage interest rates that should just be an interaction should be a market phenomenon that's the most important price road penetrates throughout the economy and it's simply an erection between ... savers and yeah ultimately investors yeah borrowers and lenders go there's a new there's no love real point to it except government Accorsi well as a close link with banking it's follow the money no problem in retrospect when you look at Nixon by the way let me just say this from the beginning it's such a breath of fresh air to be speaking with somebody who comes directly from academia but who speaks the truth and I'm not sensing that you're trying to to to change your worst to pacify the authority I you know I've I've had many professors who have interviewed in the past and you can tell you can tell the walk a fine line and I'm glad that you're speaking with that any censorship but I appreciate the let's hope that all the interview can be like that but speed on the Nixon and and the end of the comfort ability of US dollars you think he made a golden era by doing this in the recent was to finally remove the last last leash that the federal reserve had I do know that Nixon ... was so shounen now for to really think his way through it and he was surrounded by need the same the same Keynesian mentality ... I'm trying to remember the one professor at a university in Michigan at the time was a gardener Ackley Clara I think so the of famous macroeconomic a textbook author and I don't think Nixon you know Nixon was a and many ways a clever politician but I don't think he was principal dirt shooter and ... monetary ... matters to have a real an ideological love position on it I might be wrong but that that would fit with the Nixon more generally and ... so he he just did the expedient thing and I have more important he thought more important matters like of that managing the Vietnam War getting us out of that recognizing China and someone that was his name how you know contributions you could say the legacy what's going to be my legacy so it was that easy ... it short term and expedient to close the gold window and besides you know he puppy that included the package with wage and price controls that shows you how how little they knew no oh yeah you know big businesses raising prices no it's it has to do with our supply and demand for money and inflation is earns Milton Friedman said well it is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon so he took the easy way out when a real interested here's now they yeah you could have assisted them in business and it would have been a temporary suspension and we got to get our house in order and there's nothing wrong with deflate anarchy even though of the the powers that be constantly all lawyer goodness we can't have a a falling price level Hey what could I think about the other comment ... people come our way and we all enjoy falling prices entered its not only objections are are are ridiculous and ... up capitalism properly understood of course of does involve economic growth entrepreneurship technological advance arm seedings being converted of treating moralist wisely into productive assets are rising real wages are a lot of good things that ... I'm most people would concur and Hey this is the way and cut higher productivity with a constant money supply once this thing is money you don't need anymore you cannot really only destroy neo wealth producing process so ... but the whole thing about that is that the rational for bush instead are I am in the process right now of destroying so it is it's because I had a I and I know a lot about the marketplace and ... though many people of course ... I'll at least once upon a time in the university's once they encounter any of free market oriented economists they change their call of politics most Americans they don't really understand the federal reserve to me the USA was hijacked in 1913 and most people most politicians if they want to come out as industry of yours for the American people they say we need to audit the federal reserve I honestly honestly like you let's abolish it you know they are the federal reserve of reveals part a bit so even less by resisting an audit in it a true independent audit and of course ... Ron Paul famously is trading at a get this to happen and at minimum it'd Barris's them into of fighting it tooth and nail what do you guys trying hard on it you know what about that goal do we really have it I'm so yeah you you mentioned the federal reserve you know 1913 I've argued in front of my students on occasion is of that the poorest understood worst year in American history because 3 bad things happen 1 you had the first federal reserve authorized it but I was like yeah on December 24 when ... then the American people we didn't really well to the extent they knew anything they oppose the European central bank but here they pass it at midnight on Christmas Eve federal reserve yet and then you had a income tax on non business and personal incomes ... and then you have the ... a direct election of U. S. senators which seems like a minor thing but up until then senators were delegates by state legislatures and that meant they were ... I'm a subject to immediate recall when the legislators ... legislature majority of found it they were incompetent or ... ... not acting in the best interest of the state to enter a ... kind of us component of states rights and decentralize political power also what you have direct election of course although the campaign money can come across borders big time but when your delegate that's a different ... I'm prestige and and ... employment status than it is today where US senators are thought to be a big big deal most of them would be recalled if he still had that that that that the way we used to do it in the past I think so yeah yeah yeah yeah you know I used to think well maybe this whole emphasis on state and local governments and ... it being close to the people isn't as important because I am a personal and follow up on it much more closely national events that's my thing but it is true that they are special in local governments ... charities counties you know which are are really established by the the state governments as ... administrative subdivisions are they acquire a of certain local power because they are close to people and and ... ye yeah this decentralized and decentralizing aspect your is is powerful what you've got a government down at the county level much less city ... township level so I ended on the politicians have got to live with those conditions true so there's a lot of good aspects of this and that's why this ... switch to direct election but US senators ... was it that may be a third rank up these bad things that happened but still it's it's another important go of centralizing non evil that does lead to some many of our troubles today if you and I were to enter Fort Knox today what will we find ... wouldn't that be great yes let's do that now yeah it's our money that is not the government is saying these are your state parks are these are your National Park City enjoy them but don't you know litter it senator well yeah well they are going to show us that aren't that yeah which makes it all the more suspicious so that you know there's so many yeah you mean you mentioned at the outset about a government lying and that's of my initial US belief or course I any controversial issue which I would have said that ... 20 years ago as recently as 20 years ago but now we anything that's important or suspicious you know the government is lying I visited for example of Roswell New Mexico because we were on a and R. D. trip this was ... now I maybe a year ago well late winter I never been there and they had this wonderful museum and that at the outset that ... they they have a sign that says this was established by 3 businessmen it has no connection with government so I set up I I'm gonna give them a break and maybe respect some of the evidence they show me about what happened it back in ... July 1947 or didn't happen and I thought for sure I would ... get enough but information from other that this it and there were lots lots of fascinating things there but ... I never really did make up my mind about whether this was a a send up of men ... on this ranch 30 miles outside of Roswell or ... and that you know their very lives of a book by Mary Bennett and David S. Percy called dark moon Apollo and the whistle blowers and what they argue and I just don't know enough to really post an article about it they are you that something happening happened ... a real you a full that happened I believe it wasn't corona New Mexico you're not not there this rant show them in this mostly Norris of well Roswell right and cook and ... so hate up above point is it was very clear that government was lying because it would change his story ... ... every 12 to 2004 hours you know they were covering up but what were they covering up the so ... that's just one example I know the government was lying about it because you could see these reversals ... and immediately displays the evidence displayed in many they proposed a lot of people by the way ... in connection with the soul of man or were not of been for all we know go near Roswell but ... ... distraction now I'm stuck there perhaps to cover up love the real dent well not only that but just you say they changed their stories to the point that they really thought the American people are stupid and I'm saying this because years later the city was crash test dummies but crash test dummies hadn't been invented when this whole event happened and you know we would think that those who are creating these fake stories we think that in the future people will figure it out well okay ... and member of the weather balloon story grand a yeah the L. let me give you an example of this the way ... people in government thanks even if they're a good soul I thought who okay have run it like in the US department while labor during my stint there because they have a public information office well these are the spinners right I'm talking to one of the you know the gals there and we're all political appointees you know the the the up a monster bureaucracy but like the US our department labor has 16 or 17000 employees well most of which are of bureaucrats long term civil servants tied and but at the top there are people who who are political appointees and you get to change those and if you come and ... after election and ... so I'm a political appointee is chief economist ... this gal is to and I said you know what why don't I can't remember what the issue was but I said you know why don't we just tell the truth about this one because ... it it it's not gonna have any any real negative there kick back and said so for us for the long run I'm I was always frustrated with the Republicans because ... as a contrasted with leftist they don't owe really plays a long run gained a leftist will start out with some cultural or political or economic issue the scent this is absurd they're never going to get this done but they keep on shipment away and they get it done okay but she says her response is ... nobody's gonna remember tomorrow what we said yesterday also one no wait a minute yeah this kind of well for him the truth it adds up people who owe you know is that they're going to just say yeah I can't trust anything they say which show probably isn't is where we all are as being more realistic about government the the the you know what is it that's one thing so yeah public polls show is a ... racket declining and confidence in government since we're talking about it a good finisher step yellow light by a tag along ... taking on so there was well Donald Trump said one thing as a candidate and now as president while he's matured and cheered by the neocons and that this is a complete betrayal a supposedly his base trumps race ... hasn't noticed or or doesn't care but this is not gonna 16 long run well when I think of that I think that if you will get to that position of power and there's an embedded college shadow government governed behind the cover of whatever you wanna call it who recalls the shots I don't think that would allow him to mean yes read to you got us out of the DPP which is great has done some good stuff but there's some others like the perpetuation of war you know those are the things that he he said that he was gonna stop and it seems that he's going back as you said the neocon way yeah exactly I I agree with you that to hit on the war peace issue ... I gave up on and that with the Afghanistan decision now you can be aesthetic the is the only way you could I could approve would be okay he's given the generals what they want which I didn't I don't think he even really given the blank check that one in Afghanistan but let's assume he's a he's one step ahead of them and that he's gonna end up come back in 2 or 3 years and say look at this is failed completely now I am gonna ... withdraw because we lost our regional ... a motive or a wee bit winners home reason for us to continue with its a unwinnable a situation and ... in other words he turns around ultimately and now he's got to political wherewithal to fly right now that doesn't address your point though however that deep state is in charge when really push comes to shove up and ... I do believe that he'd a strong is aware that his wife is on the line or the head of his children and grandchildren ... so I but I I wonder about that after we well burned $1000000000000 killed a couple 0 Afghanis or some on nobody knows but it's going to be a ... a huge toll oh yeah yeah you know that saying once weapons were manufactured to fight wars now wars are manufactured to sell weapons yeah as long as there's profit driven activity anywhere we'll call the big pharma called war call it you know the war for drugs instead of war on drugs if the status quo will remain the same yeah it's it's so discouraging now isn't it well yeah that is the military industrial complex you know the whole Lougheed nerd Martin them Raytheon Northrop Grumman in and that is SAIC scientific applications a international corporate there that that's part of the whole 911 thing but yeah yeah we gonna do I mean ... I write on my blog for example that's one way I can help ... pointed out a lot of these things take a look I am one article on my blog for example that just looks at a defense expenditure in the nineties okay at the other end member we're gonna get the big peace dividend after a 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union and the end of an aggressive or it was thought aggressive international communist menace well what happened well we we bombed along then the defense spending actually was lower at 8 years later and then in nominal dollars and in real dollars our courses can hit shrunk so was very clear they needed a new enemy well on the whole you know though that the P. neck other the the that brought you 3 American century yeah project thank you Mel a project for a new American century okay in the absence of my under internal harbor a type of plan ... we're probably not going to get this a new century of American hegemony are not only a global book ... in deep space now I want a bigger brain on something that I've been pondering for quite some time and everybody looks at North Korea has this bogeyman I mean we haven't been talking about Iran's lately which I find strange but it's North Korea North Korea North Korea but in my opinion correct me if I'm wrong I look at China as the target there because I think that China wants to they want to have the the the build good already the leader of pain the foreign reserve currency in the future and that's why I think they're only loading the treasury's they went for I think from 1.3000000000000 to 1.one and now Japan is number one I think but they they wonder you want to go out there want to be number one do you think this is the real bull slightest in China and not North Korea okay ... on North Korea maybe seeing this one ... picture I guess it's a satellite picture and it shows it's a night time on that Korean peninsula and I assume it's for real baby secret South Korea all lit up course North Korea has mostly dark well it tells you something how big a threat are they to you know America this looks like a completely phony threat and ... Kim il sung are however his name is ... sorry him ... is Spelman pronounced up is a defensive yeah because Hey he looks around the world they say he's a you know how to Solman does the American commands they might just ... overturn your government so I need and nuclear weapons she'll let you turn this so it makes a certain amount of sense if you think deterrence so works and there's something to it she are now what gain this year according to China is there a reminds me about ... what the neocon saying you know the little boy just wanna go home to Teheran but the big boys want to ... well ... it baguette bag that I got that ... inverted there a little boys want to go to Baghdad in big boys want to go to Teheran right and and you know I ran is people know it's 3 times the size of California for openers you know it's an immense mostly mountainous country and you're gonna go in there and not conquer them only I don't think so you know yes solo we're gonna do the drawings that little of it is just it's so easy to get into a war now isn't it especially when not a ... wars going to make money reports people yeah but it's hard to end up we're going to get out now comment about not China is an ambitious government and people and ... they're there but there there is no need to ... who risked war with no other being arm and productive people's but don't you think that if they if you look at their balance sheets but didn't you know I'm looking at how they were planning to be number 1 business power by 2020 and it already happening 2016 I believe correct me if I'm wrong there but are you now what the highest GDP exactly yeah exactly in that looking at the way their race and their their their you on don't they want to be the world's global currency there for me river years ago when Brazil Russia India China South Africa were joining forces to have this basket of currency call breaks and all of a sudden nobody talks about it anymore what happened work so that was a media created the high there China has also opened up a bit of a fake economy you know you talk about being ... flying out and phony money that's part of the U. on a problem that would be it the acceptability of that money versus the U. S. dollar still or even not this remember this is just kind of who is the tallest midget in the room behind the whole hour it's still standing tall partly because of our historic low respect for private property and ... this we're still largest economy in the world Bubba but now I got to dress not only you but of the president on this question of up running deficits honor your balance of trade yet know them but the big objection au they've stolen all of our industry well here's the problem we owe we work up right up through Nixon we didn't run chronic or trade yeah imbalances or trade deficits and the room the reason is that goal is an automatic balancing a mechanism now we don't have that because of all these ... central banks at nearly every economy in the world no matter how small is a central bank well I'm a counterfeiter in a money order because if you if you're on a gold standard and you're running a deficit that means your goal is out flowing okay that'll of bring down your prices and price level and data raise your competitiveness and on the contrary but when you don't allow real money flows you don't get these corrections it's on automatic so it's like so many things only's government interventions of short circuit or cut the cord to market corrections you gotta let market corrections works I take what what happened look at our meltdown in overweight or not okay no I'm I'm not in favor of booms that inevitably they are and evidently lead to a bust but you should let the if it's gonna happen let the bus to work okay it'll be over in 1218 months markets can correct that's what they're about so why do we keep bailing out banks and insurance companies and all you know automotive company but why then it's crony capitalism sure it yeah it's the big money people up the truck I was looking at 1 of my articles here but ... JFK and 911 a little while ago and you you've got this situation where David Rockefeller you know Randy yet chase bank which goes big oil back in now we got chased Morgan she had the house of Morgan and the Rockefellers wealth finally merged it they were rivals on on some issues not on having the federal reserve so you yeah eat the oh man I lost my thought no idea the because of the Rockefeller involvement with a big oil ... they okay we here's the thought and recovered it tar you remember tar bush okay so the chase bank got $25000000000 of cuts a tarp bailout money is ... one of them chase bankers was overheard ugh to say you know we don't really need this but they sure can help us in our acquisition program so they're just part of the you know the power elite and nerve in the there gonna get theirs can we safely say I mean of course we don't know precisely unless you have a list well who really owns the federal reserve and what people use that term old the federal reserve they say but wait a minute Morgan Mel the federal reserve is a federal agency with the you know all the this money with they have neither no it's no federal and they don't have any research to butter all these banks Wells Fargo bank of America announced chase I think those are the 3 big ones that are standing now they must be part ... orders of the federal reserve these people in my opinion rule the United States and anywhere else that has a central bank around the world okay I saw an interview well there with the the CNBC guide was the economics guy scheme whatever's name season are going William Dudley is the president of the New York branch of the federal reserve wishes well worth it financial center in the world yet and he's talking about how ... yeah these this hurt can damage will ultimately lift the economy so they're not going to change their well quarterly forecasts very much and this is the video window breaking fallacy that French economist Bosnia wrote about ... in the 18 forties up you know destruction of your capital stock here in your infrastructure is a good thing well is is this it's complete nonsense but okay we're work where do where do you come from Goldman Sachs he worked as a chief economist for Goldman Sachs were over 2 decades and who is on his board Goldman Sachs you'd be Morgan chase that sucker out right so they they have a monthly meeting of their on the inside so it's it's very open do you think there's still a government off the people when you have this revolving door not only when it comes to economics I mean the you mention the hurricanes I think this is this Sasser capitalism at its best look what happened in in that Houston Florida and then now you have this hurricane well when the show airs who knows were close it would have landed but it's making these 360 degree turns I mean I had 180 degree turns on his going back almost Ecevit being mechanized steered Sam wasn't it N. M. left in certain places for a prolonged period of time which in my opinion I'm not a mere albeit meteorologist but a hurricane moves it does not stay for 3 days just like I know you've interviewed doctor Judy would now where the towers going by the way folks which is jumping around because that's they'll be area of research for a loose connection exactly you remember you V. I presume you have read the book where did the towers go most people don't know there was a hurricane standing east of New York City for days irked her can errand and the media hardly even discuss that yeah you know I I came across a Skyler physicist named ... James Makeni I don't know if you've heard of him but ... yeah I I wasn't impressed with it Alex Jones interviewed him the other day and ... what ... Makeni he's got it Emmaus and physics at least in terms of degree what he argues is that are satellites via lasers can arm dear storms some of it and the storm is ... the hurricanes that we're talking about the didn't develop off the west coast of Africa but he says warm water has nothing to do with it in these are electrical phenomena he didn't say they were up electro magnetic but I'm and you eat can he it had many breakthroughs in the nineties in particular working with our his some counterpart in Russia in not only can you steer the slayings of with the technology they've got he climbs ... but you can also ... change the sizes of these things so it is the reason this has some plausibility I can't speak with authority because I don't know enough about physics but they've got ... and he argues that one reason I I find it plausible is that the military for many decades did research on weather modification because I wanna weaponize whether whether so important and now well military conflicts so if you can now out maneuver your your opponent ... that works very well but the problem then is are are these governments in the use of this on their own populations so this I can't gender is a very frustrated you know I did this because you could scare off her canes into the amended Landeck where they would do little or no harm but now they're they're sharing the room ... to do math at maximum damage he claimed in Florida but they messed it up to a certain extent ... they they didn't get ... all they wanted now mile by Alice talking to my wife about this issue as well what would be the motive you know they didn't do well on that very much but here it would be my of bottom line of fear fear F. E. A. R. church and state depend on fear okay work and that what they say is we're going to offer you comfort we're going out where we're going to save you okay and you see this big time right that of the victims of ... hurricanes arm and rely on government to a certain extent ... as well as open hearted ... charity and and ... promotion see ... private groups and so on but ... fear me inspire fear you can get paid look look look at 911 right look at how much a mile if they'd gotten around 911 and it's so I don't know ... it as I am I mean you're saying this of mildly I'm saying to me there's something to it you can have all the secret military ... research on issues like this that can help them and all that they they brought up another interesting point which I have not duh research yet but supposedly there was a you ran this would be like 2003 or so ... UN arm up treaty propose which are most governments in the world of voted to endorse but not the U. S. regarding weaponization of weather and supposedly arm record the US government ... objected to the clause that would prohibit ... use of low where there weaponization against your own population well I don't know was put in for drama are not done it's like that full spectrum dominance by the year 2020 so there you go full spectrum yeah you know looking at these hurricanes you know for anybody who's a weather geek if you have been following these Hyrcanus specialist let's begin with Harvey usually when I look at a radar I see the weather systems moving you know from east to west or west to east up above the United States for companies to these green patches moving and when I looked at Harvey for the longest time you saw these when the green patches emanating from a specific area but Mr looking into it I found that there were industrial plants that were emitting a lot of vapor but we have heard that NASA has the facilities in in the Alabama I believe that they are in the middle of nowhere 50000 acres in the middle of nowhere and they pretend to be a research team rocket when in reality they have just you know tons of vapor coming out of there that creates weather patterns everywhere else and it rains in Mississippi or in Florida but anyway regarding the Texas I saw these you know emanating green little things on the computer in the same thing happens west of Africa almost if something tells me that there's something in one of these countries in West Africa that creates all these papers that create something that is going to be moved west and this is the precursors of what we now call hurricanes coming to the Caribbean yeah it could be that deserves further investigation on my part duty sure but it just shows ... can go back to our ... regional love discussion regarding government lie yeah I think there's something wrong on this here so ... it I'm I'm just not as well informed on the weather topic is I would be on on some of the others we discussed thus far well that's fine in and just thinking back in 1992 when I went through hurricane Andrew immediately after the hurricane happen of course you know but but but a lot of people suffered and or billions of dollars the biggest national natural disaster ever into that happen in the United States but I remember the insurance premiums the sky rocketed and it's incredible how much people pay now for her cane insurance in Florida so if you have a mortgage you have to do that so that's a huge profit increase for the insurance industry they have all these hurricanes that are approaching now same thing is going to happen yes ... but of course the insurance companies are and can't arm stay in business nuclear really in business independently ... unless they can now price well those risks accurately so I'm in favor of that ... but they they're real problem and is you know one of the reasons that Houston for example ... suffered so much under this Harvey is because of subsidized flood insurance right Pequot Pete people don't have ... I'm we don't have market pricing that ... really tells people are is this a good place to locate or not and ... David stockman other than the famous Reagan appointee of years ago and I was a brilliant that he had an article recently where he also loves him part of the blame on Houston ship channel which is a factor 15 miles inland from like golf and ... news gotta have the D. O. water court here well that that's so maybe not going to be a good idea and you bet one of these these hurricanes which are going to cover on so ... subsidies are are in a real solution no the the real problem though is what it is you raised it ... before I did I think were about steering these things and controlling these things and that that was well 1 of the issues ... with 911 where doctor would brought of forward Hey look this hurricane thing here no she doesn't directly ... claimed that the energy to turn the twin towers to find us Ron was provided by Erin but the point is that ... there there was this peculiar behavior that has straight line in nam up from the Carolinas this hurricane and nobody ever mentioned it well there was some mentioning of this thing I've turned quickly almost a right angle at just the but perhaps you need a static for healers there's things to world that need investigation here by independent thinkers by the way not to get too political but you know I remember back in 1989 when hurricane Hugo Hugo hit the Caribbean I was work working for a company called Donna Bradstreet tried to go in and audit businesses and I remember going there after the disaster and seen how many businesses were underground not because of the hurricane because of looting and at the only businesses that stood strong were the people who went on top of the roofs with weapons defending their property and I thought this is the right thing to do try to call my 11 during the hurricane if you're lucky to have a phone robot is going to show up but now this year they did that in the Virgin Islands they actually went door to door to the registered gun owners to Rick and they confiscated guns and ammo what's your take on that well my Katrina to why the way in favor of armed citizens yeah yeah I remember removing confiscating they did that during Katrina too old legal I just her gun owners they did all the criminals had their guns but they didn't know what the legal you know owners were I know it that's one of the problems with concealed carry licenses for example right the ... near sorties no I have guns but my question is why would they be confiscating guns at a time when citizens would need them the most because first responders police and so on will not be able to respond in a timely fashion why do they do that well well well it's more government bad policy the question is what where the motives right and I keep the sheeple sheeple right you're you're stripping us citizens of their right of self defense which is okay so fundamental right we grant this to animals really self defense read it you're right and you're taking away the primary tool you know when you talk about a yeah arm our defense of businesses against looters well yeah I remember when they ... the LA riots were happening was sent in the must of been in the sixties right 12 and then again in 92 and yeah maybe it was one of the more recent an incidence but how do you had ... crew real no shop orders it said I remind early ECM up patrolling up on the second floor exactly ... that is a deterrent now isn't it but isn't that proof that these were the only businesses that survived because they were able to exercise their right to to to bear arms at the right time right yeah you know I saw I saw some news item but I really didn't give it and he can he thought I said well this is typical was this the U. S. through the British Virgin Islands by the way U. S. Virgin Islands claim Thomas increasing John I'm no the others with the other ones have it out like to have guns they're just like it is in Europe I'm but anyway I don't need to spend time on this where we have so many topics discussed AB let's start talking about NASA and the moon and they will get it on the other side after we come back from the break but let's just we have about 5 minutes NASA because the van Allen belt an impenetrable barrier in space Morgan if that's the case how did they pit how did they penetrated 6 times Ben yeah yeah well under trips to the moon grain of yeah I guess so whether we had Apollo 13 that the engineer to have ... at a terrible time of it dry and the real cold out there in space even though you get full sunlight unimpeded sunlight but yeah parent your bull well this would be an end mission ... against interest as the lawyers would put it now wouldn't it bait because ... all unison Hey wait a minute how did they know and send that many who the moon and ... return home safely right and the well you know what I had I was just looking at a link of mine where I was I referenced some ... or Ryan ... scientists employed by NASA in which he admitted I I don't know who's in Justin innocent admission or what but he said we don't have the radiation protection we need to ... manage aim at mission to Mars right so the end okay that would take a year with the current technology they're talking about but Tom the whole radiation is the number one problem of 4 trying to verify a a landing on the moon it just didn't happen none of them happened so for example the what you've got is ... unit you mention the van Allen belt which is ... of considered to be about 2 Roma but it goes out as much as 50000 miles that's a that's what makes the earth and I are such a sweet spot right the earth benefit so come out as a is it a life giving out planet yeah so it's it's a loaded with radiation at that's why they can only do lower earth orbit what they've done for us nearly 50 years that's all it done okay L. you that's one source one of the ... and damaging arm sources and then you have in just in general you have galactic cosmic rays they're all over the place there's micro meteorites as well and ... meteorites and then you've got guess what the sun we used to call it duh well but now they call it solar particle emissions as peas ... it just flares where's where the sun just you lose out to hurt me enormous amounts of radiation and in this book that I mentioned earlier dark moon by the 2 British authors they point out that ... during the Apollo missions and I think here they're talking about the 6 well that actually claim to be ... ... landings there were 16.9 sun flares or solar particle of dance ... per day per day this is tremendous stuff and all we got is on these units are space suits that were actually made by Playtex it they know how to sew Earl good looking things together Playtex you know the other then they got no prick and no protection there's no atmosphere of protecting the Apollo astronauts on the moon so the radiation is the showstopper and some are scientists said ... pointed this out but the trouble with so much of homeless and and the engineering and physical science community traces back to government they are very dependent on government for licensing certification and money and this is corrupted the universities and it puts the old man up in their profession in charge of who gets what and guess what they're not going to be the innovators they're gonna defend ... there quote breakthroughs of 30 years ago right so the whole the whole thing is upside down it's like one of my oceanography friends is they see said about the university's it's a system in which the old exploit the young you know I'm just thinking of the temperature differentials when they're sunlight hitting the moon in temperature can hit 253 degrees are one on 23 cells use and when the dark side of the moon or the far side you know you can help temperatures dipping to minus 243 or 153 Celsius the space suits did not have any kind of protection no no gold around them to protect the the astronauts the the the capsule did not the Hasselblad camera did not in the differential between cold and hot would have does not please disable date rolls of film it's for anybody who continues to say we definitely went to the moon at least this should be able to get answers to these fundamental questions there's so many things wrong course with the the moon landing prod the hoax it's it's a hoax you know it's just and you know I've written on this and actually had a couple pieces ... about this I'm the Lou Rockwell.com ... biggest libertarian website in the world and it was amazing to me you can ... point out early the JFK ... assassination was a ... up plot LBJ basically Hey who benefits you know we borrow LBJ center and yet he's not a lot the Tolly main suspect okay yet you can write on that you can write on us well to harbor okay that FDR and his henchmen of basically arranged and pressured the Japanese and attacking the whole the whole right there because we have to break the 2 seconds and you basically given us the talking points what's coming next boats we have more of the Apollo moon landings were faked my opinion the world $150000000000 swindle on my end mankind especially the United States taxpayer JFK assassination lies we're talking about false flags in the history of initiation of war power harbor we discussed this before was 1 could arrange but if DR a company more lies of an 1116 years after and the current trump contratar we need to discuss this because there's this seems to be a coup the tar happening slowly I got some news today saying that they're trying to poison person trump he loves to drink diet soda and they're giving him too much and we all know what NutraSweet and aspartame can do to your brain but all of this when we come back how can people learn more about your work professor Reynolds go to my blog blog means you can comment critical your own making on the plus side it's no more games.net no more games.net thanks much more with professor Morgan rails when we come back hopefully you'll beat me in the members section this just melt Bamberger's and you're listening to very tests don't go anywhere nmrs part of this very important interview listen to the rest Oliver archive material go to the members //
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Kristine Carlson - 1 of 2 - Don't Sweat the Small Stuff
\\ease stress case in your life of course you do without question many of us have mastered the neurotic are just spending much of our lives worried about a variety of things all at once pledge special guest cheerful book aims to make us stop and smell if not roses whatever is sitting in front of our noses don't sweat the small stuff offers guidance decided to make you appreciate being alive keep your emotions especially anger and dissatisfaction in proper perspective I cherish other people if you want to learn how to put challenges in perspective reduce stress and anxiety small daily changes and find the path to achieving your goals that this interview and the book are for you but if you change your perspective and think of your problems I see potential quote unquote greetings every host Mel Fabregas describe very test radio.com to listen to this full interview and all of our material today's special guesses New York times bestselling author and world renowned speaker Kristine Carlson sting is passionate about spreading her message of waking up to life with joy and gratitude amidst the ups and downs of this earthly exist her life mission is to expand upon the phenomenal success of her late husband Dr Richard causes work and the don't sweat the small stuff series she continues his legacy of peaceful and mindful living through her own best selling books over the past 2 decades Chris and Richard have sold more than 25000000000 books jasmine feature national radio and television broadcasts including the today show Good Morning America the view of the Oprah Winfrey show but we have a more comprehensive by a writer website at U. Joyce's directly for good weather California hello Christine how are you yeah I'm so good thank you so much for having me on now though it's my pleasure and an honor you know the name of the book where you visit discussing today's the classic don't sweat the small stuff and it's all small stuff but part of the title which has sold over 25000000 copies from the perspective of those who haven't read the book yet they may say hold on Mel that sounds easier said than done why don't we start with probably one of the biggest challenges you faced a few years ago when her husband Dr Richard Carlson a well known international speaker and author passed away unexpectedly but it's not small stuff your daughters were were young at the time so before we begin our discussion to put things in perspective for listeners who was shot to Richard Carlson and how did you overcome that tragic event well well and let me just take a really detract them invite all your listeners to take a really did cross me too and because you know that time in our lives you know at that time in our lives where at the tenth anniversary of doubts but the small stuff that was ... 10 years ago now that Richard very suddenly passed away while on a flight to New York he died of a pulmonary embolism so it wasn't something that we had in the morning about it wasn't that he was L. or that we knew that he was L. or anything you just you just had you know really sudden death and I am you know Richard was everything that anybody would aspire to want to be is a man I mean he was a very high integrity man me was kind he practiced nobody preach to people arm he he knowing he lived his life in interest of helping humanity grow really I mean he I don't think that he could have known the kind of impact that he was gonna have I don't think anybody really does know that and it was it was surprising when it happened in his career on his tenth book I am but he was such a pure hearted soul that you know it was it was really wonderful and we certainly ... you know enjoyed that part of it that you know really served people the most and and certainly enjoyed that run of success that we have as a compliment family to and it was you know really shocking of course like it is for anybody you know 10 years ago we were in a place in our lives where we were in mid life and we had no anticipation bottles was gonna happen to alive so it was there is like having the rug pulled out from under your feet and then doing a very long freefall and grief and you know as a family trying to put the pieces together and and now I was real small step at all you know it was it was vague staff but a lot of times people ask me you know and and how my work has grown over the years I've I've done a lot of work with windows and with people who are in grief and loss and they often ask me if there's a way to prepare for that kind of loss and I often say yeah you know you really do prepare for loss every day that you live and if you practice living a happy life wary you keep life in perspective it's not as if that is the way you practice lost but you're able to be resilient and the face that are huge changes and huge loss because you have really understood how to keep the small stuff in perspective and how to practice a really healthy happy flight so eventually after you go through a process of grief you'll return to that place and even kill me possibly even more joy just because you've been through something in us wrote back in your life that you can survive I've done you you know in my case it wasn't just enough to survive I had I really wanted to choose to thrive and eventually that's why arrived at that's great in the fact that you're carrying the torch and so many years after the light still on for everybody and you know you gain fans on a daily basis I know that for a fact but Christina for many people society has lost its way I'm being selfless is less sexy than taking self fees with this New World of social media AG toning like Santa and being self absorbed and caring so much about what people think of us how do we go back to basics well well that's a great question and certainly something that arm our society has to answer today and you know I I think that ... it goes back to you know what are your values in life and I think a lot of times we just assume that our values stay the same you know where is like our values can change based upon our actions and I like that we practice and I think what we're gonna see happen with people is that they're gonna get sick and tired of being on their cellphones and on their social media and and the fact that their license gonna pass them by even faster because they're not in present chewing I know it yet you cannot leave her cousin do I don't either lotus the picture of a beautiful scene you know like there's this there's this I log that house to begin to happen in our culture and think about it and I do believe that some point it it won't have to swing back toward you know people realizing that you know there's just there's times that limit and you have to put your social media okay like one of the things I love is anyhow find agreement friends and your family that social media like soft bones all electronics or wait for the all time you know so that it leads to at mealtime you don't see kids you know at the table like talking to their friends and chatting as opposed to looking at parents and and the and the parents can be just equally as is guilty of holidays as follower couples dinner out restaurant scene on there so chatting with other people running you ought to be looking across the eyes at each other and you know meeting about their lives together and in our job build their own relationships so you know these are kinds of things that I think that people are going to have to look out and disciplines know that people are gonna have to put in place in their own lives in it it's gonna be based on a lot of things I think there's a lot of studies now that are showing that every time your phone what we know is in your pocket and each symbolizes that you have a cortisol spike and there is a special on 60 minutes the other night about that that I'm Anderson Cooper they were doing attached with him and he had a phone pocket and every time it's fun buzzed his quarters all spiked well the court as well as the stress hormone and you know that having to mention in your system is is not good you know what they call the duck hormone actually and you want it you know not how that happened and so if you think about that it behooves us to her later and you know I'm phones away at night and you know keep all those things that are ... blue light out of our room at night you know just require some healthy life practices that just a really about using common sense and maybe doing a little research that's that's right think it's gonna happen grand you this interesting you mention the phones because just a quick story to put things in perspective a recently went on vacation and to the Caribbean and I took your book with me I was wondering why I even when I'm on vacation it's hard for me to disconnect myself from my business technology the web in which said read that that was a source of annoyance to me in in this thing about cornice alike truly believe it so I kept wondering how do people do it years ago before cell phones and the internet you know that when a vacation and if anyone needed to reach you you would leave a message with you know the hotel and even before voicemail people would have to find you on your telephone meant you know when you were available so life continued so here's what I did I love to go out to take pictures when I'm on vacation but I notice that while I was taking pictures I would get an email or text or or believed here and there that will immediately change my mood with my family and I found a big culprit so here's what I did upon landing at my destination this time I went ahead and a body camera so I would leave my cell phone in my hotel room for the day or sometimes I would turn it off and and listed in my backpack with you know my wife or my daughter both told me that they haven't seen me so what peace and engage with them on vacation in years so guess what the world didn't end at night I would check my email and messages once a day and all the chords swat will go up but my one time but that's it honey worked out just fine so sometimes we must learn how to say no don't be held hostage by technology and distractions I just wanted to illustrate that you know one way to find inner peace your thoughts on that yeah I think that's great that you thought to do that on your vacation near to realize those things that are stressing us out and that's where the having perspective is isn't it I mean it's it's being aware it's being conscious of those things that you know you really don't want and again it goes back to your values nephew value time with your family and your value having ... good conversation and engagement then it's part 2 richer cellphone away and put your social media way and and maybe it's about that aims to go on your social media I know one of the things that I've done this summer as I'm working on a new book is I literally I I haven't been on social media I just I've I've got a team that post stream through the summer and I can't tell you how wonderful you know my summers then just because I haven't been on any social media per se all summer long and inches help me be so much more present in the flow of my work and you know and and and not having those artificial boosts that I heard recently there's some sort of ... like like a lot of game people who are offering games and and the game creators are having under a science background and even like I like the different social media platforms are even releasing likes in like chunks of 1022 to boost the kids that are watching those lights go up and down are out you know and in its home meant to create this armed sense said dependents this sense of addiction to social media and being on your you know phone constantly and I think I think it's really a 4 aware of that then we could say that the dangers of that are that you know we are going to be as president to our families and and how the deeper connections to people that really create intimacy and and the kind of relationships that are part of our well being as a human species if you really think about it I mean yes I love that you did that now but you were wise enough to buy the camera and to get off of you know being available to your so so maybe I mean that's wonderful market that result that you had by just that one small change and I think that's one of the things that the don't sweat the small stuff series has always pointed people to is that it doesn't take large changes in your life to create like large things that you have to do to create large ships and your perspective or in your mental health and well being and what we wanna do is have access to our mental health and well being so that that impacts all of our relationships and impacts all of the outcomes that we deeply desire in our lives so the whole folks you try that I was so happy and sewing gates and connected I haven't been like that for years and I wonder why I used to think I'm such a feel of metal into Pat was on the back but I think I'm a good father and a good husband by the field disconnected sometime because I'm answering you hold on let me just get back to you because I have a voicemail to respond to anyway you know thousands of years ago Epictetus a Greek philosopher said it's not what happens to you but how you react to it that matters how do we deal with our reactions with which most of the time immobilizes from acting rationally well you know that's a great question because ... one of the things that the don't sweat the small stuff series has always spoken to is to become more responsive to like verses reactive to life and when we speak of being reactive we're talking about those times where we don't think before we speak we just have a knee jerk reaction I mean let's say for example and your kids walked through the door and you know maybe they're having some sort of drama going on and they tell you the story and then you suddenly just react to this story or they say something or your spouse or something that annoys you and instead of just allowing it to settle for a moment maybe taking a couple of deep breaths and pausing people just launch into a reaction and these kinds of reactions are never going to ... come with an outcome that is satisfactory to anyone usually and evokes a negative response from the people that you're reacting to on you don't feel good about reacting you know what we've always really taught people to do and our work is to try and take a golden pods the colleges to a simple parts a time of breath to you know activate your parasympathetic nervous system get yourself out of reactive mode and into would call it from you knowing that amygdala party a brain which is the fighter flight are to the the prefrontal cortex which is the CEO of your brain and just simple brats will do that like ill just put you in the CEO part of your brain and where you can respond to what's happening in a much more healthy way and and then just kneejerk reactions which are generally never gonna come up a great outcome you know I know you're funded and doctor Carlson your husband fun of Dr Wayne Dyer here's a quote from doctor Dyer he said if you change the way you look at things the things you look at change is it all a matter of perspective Chris well I think so I mean as so much of it is about ... you know when people perceive their lands through which they view the world I we talked about it in a way I am voice activated is your you thought screech a reality and then your reality is based on the filter from which you view the world and the filter is of course and it's designed specifically to each individual based upon their own belief system you know the kinds of things that happen to them and their child need the kinds of mentors and that they hide and the kinds of any you know all of these things that whether it's it's positive or negative it impacted your filter system and what you see in the world ... when the most powerful things that really supports this now is that happiness researcher ... Sean acar I'm here at this book called the happiness and managing I've had a number of conversations with him over the years about happiness and when the coal conversations that's happening now is with neuroscience which basically I'm a lot of death findings support it so much of what don't sweat the small stuff and we'll Dr Wayne Dyer and you know just what Richard said all of that ingreso colleges of our era it didn't have the advantage of that research that really supports them and saying you know that yes happiness and of itself is a choice and you know we get exposed to Sahara much information every second I mean not something like 11000000 bits of information and the second but our minds only process wordy bits of that information that's 40 out of 11000000 possibilities that's not very much but it's a safety mechanism for our minds to only process the small amount of what is available for us to see because otherwise we would be a completely and overwhelm all the time that all the information that is available you know for us to see and news so we talk about that conversation amidst keeping life in perspective we have to remember that the kinds of information that were actually exposing ourselves to are the ones that we anticipate seeing and so that you know whether or not you have a negative or positive bias and how you view the world is is really powerful you know and and you do have control over not necessarily like when you have a thought but you definitely have a control over whether you're going to stay engaged enough thought patterns that you do that you do have so let's say you're on a negative role of some kind which and you know you you you've been annoyed you know something is is really bothering you and you keep rehearsing over and over and over in your mind a conversation that you have to have with somebody that annoy me to ... you know when you're doing not you know unfortunately that's what you're focused on right so all the rest of your life is just kind of passing you by while your mind is on that you know on that negative brawl that if you can catch your salt and search to become more and more aware early on you know to the kinds of thoughts that you're having and you're engaged in that you can decide to stop that at any time because the chances are that rehearsing that conversation over and over again isn't isn't so again I hope you have that conversation and if it's negative you're probably just rehearsing over and over something negative that you don't really wanna say anyway does that make sense to you now norm Solutrean in you know folks perhaps some of the questions that I'm asking me Souness and from being judgmental but that's not my intention for example so many people Chris are are dissatisfied with how the they look what they have not accomplished and the list goes on should there be sure to come a time when we make peace with our imperfections ... always I mean I think you know I think that's like one of the fundamental in the fundamental laws of happiness is that you really have to make peace with imperfection realize that the world and I won't solve is perfectly imperfect and so is everything and that and you know I think that sometimes people get in the habit of being dissatisfied because they're afraid that if they get cheap and chance when they may not be driven or motivated we make the mistake of thinking that by beating ourselves up or by you know like being negative on ourselves is what's driving us when all that's really doing is just driving us into the ground it's just it's driving down that you know highly motivational inspirational I'm positive spirit which it really could be holding you back from being more successful I mean now the research shows that positive people are far more successful am in their careers and and have better outcomes in all their relationships then you have people who are more negative and so it is a process to really do our best to keep our attitude positive and to just armed again it seems very simple and it really is it's it's about being aware it's about knowing that you have no choice and about being aware when I see you have the choice you you do you have the choice of whether or not you're gonna continue to engage and negative thoughts you really do it and in in that it might be challenging at first but everything new is challenging you know but keeping like a gratitude journal for example is very powerful just shift the way you view the world you know if you can shift from looking at the world as being incompetent and not having enough of everything to seeing a world that has abundance in your own life and to spend more time focused on what you're grateful for than what she wants in your life that's gonna really help you become a more positive person I'm more optimistic overall and I'm sure you've heard the saying you manifest the thoughts that you entertained do you realize we're creating a snowball effect without thinking yeah that's a chapter in dogs but the small stuff I think that it is for many of the books yeah so the snowball way of thinking you know is it it's just like a snowball you start with something small and it just grows and grows and grows and again and I'm gonna go back to the point I made earlier and not when you're focused on something.you know you're worried about or is perhaps insignificant it will be insignificant a year from now ... me off it's really small it will be insignificant even tomorrow when you're focused on not and those kinds of issues and things and bothered by minor annoyances then you're missing you know you're missing the opportunity ... that's at hand to experience joy and to be present and to live your life from a different race within yourself from to live your life in your mental health and well being verses and being you know in your negative state of mind and that's not to say that we don't all have negative states of mind I mean I do daily but I am able to check and balance myself and say wow that was that's a really negative thing to say to yourself about yourself or someone else and then opt off that train do you see you what I'm alluding to its like there's you can just stop at any time as long as you're aware but it's it's the times when were not aware you know and and we talk a lot about moods and feelings as beings of barometer and guide I am to her thinking so let's just say you are in the low mood and you're not feeling that great you aren't alone then well that's the time to ask yourself Jeez where's my thinking taking me where it whether my thoughts right now and to realize at that point you don't have to stay on that train of thought that by just simply shifting about awareness and even being aware that you are thinking as negative things if you know that that's happening then likely your mind is suddenly going to pop off of that training is just what happens nothing to do to do it you're just not gonna set it's like sitting against the door again I can just sit bang your head against the door and got out of that hurt again let me bang it again ouch other ever again yeah actually yeah you're actually say well now this new understanding that I have that my diets are actually at the very epicentre of this terrible mood I'm in I am gonna like go clear my head and then I go for a walk I'm gonna feed the dog and the really present with the dog I'm gonna go and just clear my head of this thinking al ever you clear had take a shower you know just be present in your body be present in your life that that's all you have to do and and then suddenly notice that you might be just feeling less brutal but better you your mood starts to rise instantly when you get off those negative trains of thought and so much of don't sweat the small stuff and the don't sweat series is really based on on a book that Richard Wright earlier in his career because you can be happening no matter what and there's 5 principles and not book that are very thoughtful about your mental health and well being of the entire does what this must look series Aaron's arm that points to end and so many of these have been talking about this hour this is why we hear the word mindfulness it's a very popular word lately but I wonder if people really know what that means we just defined for the listeners mindfulness a mental state achieved by focusing one 's awareness on the present moment that's key while calmly acknowledging and accepting one 's feelings thoughts and bodily sensations used as a therapeutic technique you can use that all the time now I'm sure you've heard the saying up them tubs are E. we keep talking about perspective how important is compassion in changing our perspective wall of compassionate every thing because you know oftentimes the things we do get really bothered by have to do with other people and you know I I love the story of ... there's a story in chicken soup for the soul other man riding the train on is a crowded train and he was riding the train with his 3 children and here and there and and it's told from this from the man who has the children's side but it's also he he he realizes that his kids are out of control on the train but its head is low and he's just really not doing much about it and then Amanda soaking their aids is watching him and says something to him negative about you know can you please just control your kids in there and the man looks up any he looks for Lauren implementing since I'm really sorry we just came from the hospital and my my wife is just died they just lost their mother and I don't you know and and I'm I'm sorry my kids are out of control and in that man you know who's who's sitting there is like all how you know I had no idea I'm no worries you know out of course probably back pedaled on not but again you know that the point of that story is that you just don't know what is going on in somebody else's life and I think we can keep that in the back of our minds you know always not just sometimes but always that we just don't know we cannot walk in somebody else's shoes we just don't know like what what is going on in their lives so maybe see people and the world is a little more innocents sometimes that we tend to think and I think that that's how it really great way to access compassion arm is to really be able to do your bass to put yourself in somebody else's shoes you know as the best you can and give people a break younger people a break you know just that's what not swinging small stuff is more about than anything it's about you know just not reacting to stop that distancing really matter much you know you got you have plenty of things to deal with in your life that do matter you know save your energy for that stuff because you know one also comes around there's no mistaking it you know you know I I often tell the story that you know there are things that are on my radar you know the day that Richard died love it was like about getting Christmas cards out and you know maybe I was annoyed at a girlfriend about something or whatever you know it was it was a lot of stuff that when he died another thought ever mattered singing ever since I mean I know that I I just if you don't sweat the small stuff when you're living the big stuff you really doubt and it's really easy to you know get in the habit of being dramatic and enlightening life's little annoyances when your has been throws his underwear down in me images shower next to the laundry hamper and it doesn't make it in the laundry hamper or you know your kids are always leaving there are you know soda cans out or whatever it is did you know you have to remember that if those things were happening and not person was no longer there you'd be devastated about.and in it I certainly I've had that experience I can tell you by experience that that's true but I think if you if if anyone thinks about it then they're gonna know that that's also true as well everybody's fighting their own battles I also like would you have in the book you know maybe you need to look at people as if their babies or 100 year olds perhaps you're perceptive match into the more exactly that is the way that you can keep life in perspective with with people and even sometimes you know you think about your own kids how mad you can get your own kids but if you look at a baby picture of that it often bring what other so yeah remember them like therapeutic there are but but ya for sure if you can picture somebody in a fragile state now are more fragile state that often is that way too and bring that feeling of compassion back and and and yeah I think it's being compassionate is if the really the only the gentlest wait till the end and it certainly is far easier to be gentle and kind much healthier to be gentle and kind than it is to be harsh and angry and I'm trying well let me read this from the book quote so many of us live our lives AS if the secret purpose is to somehow get everything done we stayed up late get up early avoid having fun and keep our love ones waiting sadly I've seen many people who put off their loved ones so long that the love ones lose interest in maintaining the relationship record of this is so true Chris how do we remind ourselves that the purpose of life is it to get it all done but to enjoy each step along the way and live a life filled with love and I'd say 90 percent of the things we worry about we have no control over so why worry about them well the thing is and in on Jan I think it goes back to our people really being able to evaluate their habit you know and their their values and and you know if you think about your actions lining up with your values that's the most important thing and most people's actions don't line up with their values and and you know I or a lot of times you'll find that there's a disconnect there anything you have to if you value relationship and you value connection then you have to put in the time and energy to make sure that happens in your life and that the action part very important but here's another casualty of social media and I hate to say this but this is this is something that perhaps was not there when the book was written but this is so pervasive now she so many people doing something nice but they have to advertise it you know to the world sure we do something nice for someone else and and don't tell anyone about it isn't that a great feeling to do it anonymously wha own and that's yadda another chapter in does not the slow stuff yeah and he do it do your things anonymously because it just feels good to do it in a very loose arum Richard I spent sometime at a couple of different Asheron's arm in India at and that principle practices called saiba it's it's actually practice of I'm not taking any ego credit for the things that you do from for people and it's just it's just a delight parades to to just know that you're doing good works in the world but not necessarily needing a credit for it ... yeah I think it's it's it's just the way it does give you some much joy that they're so much joy inherent in giving to other people that the real word at just the gift and the giving is joy it's it's rewarded not in heart that so I I look I'm sure most people listening to us have busy lives we all do you know if today societies decide to keep us in a Russia we don't have to know the time to smell the proverbial grosses you know one trade of a being busy is interrupting others before the finish what they're saying or even finishing their sentences for them I use to be guilty of this but thankfully being a radio host has helped me immensely to stop will the bad habit how important is for us to be patient when others are having a conversation with us yeah so I think it's so important to be patient with people and allow people to speak and just tell listen I mean them we think about what we would really want a worst speaking we want somebody patiently listened and I think it's one of the greatest gifts that we can give each other is to listen while and it it's just so healing to be heard and yeah I think I think being patient and not finishing people sentences is just the very I just it just America courtesy and it's a wonderful thing we call it becoming a world class listener when you can become a world class listener you're just you're so present to the person that you're aware and I just don't think there's anything more healing than that I mean I think that's why people go to therapy actually so you save yourself a lot of dollars and just listen to your grandpa but you said something interesting there you know people you know talk therapy used to be something common people would go to that there psychologist author person used do some talk therapy and I am going to be determined to Britain bass pharmaceutical industry here but right now I hear all the time people have less and less talk therapy a more and more prescription medication for depression what's your thought on that well yeah I don't know the statistics are hand I know that they've been really higher for the years ... diet people have been really over prescribe to and as far as in I'm just taking a close to your heart and be happier in how Adam it's always the short you know certainly there's cases where it's important I mean when you have somebody who has a true chemical issue and they you know they may need that goes to show you know their chemistry to get out of a very serious and you know chemical issue that they're having with their brain and but you know there's so much more natural stuff now too that people can do I'm you know just by researching a little bit with the aim in the clinic for example it does all this amazing and brain research and if you go to the amen clinics.com you can look on their end innately there so many natural things that you can do is as instead and get on medication and again in the inner work is so important I mean if you understand how to help yourself and how to help yourself heat your your ... life in perspective how to access your mental health and wellbeing by the things that you practice and life on a day to day basis you know for example if you wake up really stressed out in the morning to an alarm clock and you just run out of bed and you're just like like if you're already putting out fires from the moment you wake up in the morning instead of just you know creating some sort of peaceful start your day you know we've always recommended people get up a little bit earlier and ... so they can create a very peaceful rituals how they start their day that includes gratitude that includes I'm maybe a spiritual practice might include prayer might include yoga might include soft music or even you know having coffee with your lives you know your spouse or your partner or your kids or whatever but just not you brushing a no right off to the start to the races in the morning well Hey great dividends to your ability to be more peaceful throughout your day you know if you start your day peacefully you'll live more peacefully there's just things that you can practice on an ongoing basis that really help you you know be and not peaceful mark content more positive space within yourself you know here's another trade that shows how we have to Tamar ego in I think are a you go is a defense mechanism but sometimes you know when someone is telling you a story instead of jumping in and saying something like I or I did something like that you talk about surrendering your need for attention and let the other person have the glory tell us more yeah so I mean that that kind of speaks for itself doesn't that you know it you allow other people to crime if it's okay to let them feel really good about themselves without you having to one up them and better their story published story yeah yeah upmanship is a great way to describe it so without one upping somebody or even corrupting them you know like I'm might change I see partners did out and in a one person wall tele story and then the other person wall are maybe sing it a slightly different and we'll correct them you know and and that shows you know those are gone those or hobbits people practice that are creating the healthiest relationships are the healthiest connections with that but said that the opposite would also be true that to practice allowing people to have the glory to practice allowing people choose say the story the way they would say it and just you know just allowing that to happen and just taking joy and their joy is really a better strategy for a life and a better strategy for your relationships as well live and let live and let live now before we discuss the next topic I'm reminded of John Lennon's quote life is what happens when we're busy making plans and again I was guilty of this for a long time I remember years ago in a pool somewhere zipping at a cocktail and telling an ex girlfriend about our next vacation and she told me are you serious you're in an incredible location all vacation under planning for the future another vacation enjoy today I didn't realize I was doing that how important is to live in the present moment well you know I you talked about girls 5 principles and Richard spoke you can be happy no matter what that adults Michael small stuff series points to in one of those principles is present moment living now there's a lot that's been said over the years about living presently you know I like to describe it as being and kind of a vertical alignment with your brats in your body and that's how I describe it for myself and what I mean by that is my mind is is is really present and I'm not thinking about my future I'm not thinking about my past I'm really deeply engaged in this mama and in my experience now ironically and interestingly people are most present can you can you guess one of the most promising how well will well sleeping no for them as president while there's having sex I'm sick of sex but no one say it yeah that some people are the most present so is is they're deeply engaged for the obvious reasons we can all chuckle about that and you know in but if we think about that that you know that that is like and also people are super present when they're in danger I don't know if you've ever had that experience of having things happen in slow motion you know whether in a car accident or something's gonna happen it'll have just dropped 6 yeah I just suddenly life's blows down way down and it just happens to happen in slow motion it was that is the reason that happens is because suddenly you are so engaged and not moment you are right there and you are so president and it does slow everything down arm you're so attentive to detail because it matters so much to your safety to the well being of your family too perhaps you even you know living to the next moment so we think about that that's the kind of level engagement or talking about or talking about living presently you watch babies do it they're very present are they they just they're just in their bodies and their just immersed in the moment and they're taking in everything like a sponge you know and in that's not you know it's harder for us to do as adults but it's not impossible to be and that presents and and that absorbing our life and taking it all in and drinking and and and you know having that you know mass of love affair with life itself and you're able to be really present Mark Twain once said that to combat fear the best strategy is to learn to bring your attention back to the press and but you know I sometimes wonder if we had to put our daily emotions on a pie chart how much of that pie will be located to worry what do you think well I mean that's such an individual and Stan Arianna really and only one night each person can answer I mean you know what what and all of our worries are very different aren't they I mean it it's just that there's such a very ... I'm in those subjects subjective question in a way like I I don't know it think it really depends on what your habit is that each person should ask that question of them sounds if they conclude their emotions on a pie chart how much do they worry I mean I don't I am at a stage in my life where I keep my emotions on pie chart my slice of worry is very small but then again I've lived through some of my greatest things that I was afraid I'm so I'm not as worried about those things as most people might be because I've you know I've survived them in in you know that that could be the reason why I also have practice this philosophy for my entire adult life so I really know that worry is a perfect waste of my energy you know I find you know worry about something I'm gonna do something about it if I can't I can't do anything about it I'm going to surrender to it and that's a principle that island by you know that I now I just it it just that's just a really you know transform not surrender small stuff is just learning that you know worry it's a waste of time absolutely lit a go if you can't help but now I sometimes remember the people who were more than a pebble in my sure the people who were who knew we may consider the annoying coworker the bad Bosch and you know I could go on and on but when I look back I realize they were placed on my path to teach me a lesson there were actually teachers and here's the interesting part of I think they did not disappear from my life from my past until I learned the lesson which takes me to the next topic imagine you know that everyone is enlightened except you tell us more well well you know I haven't read that chapter for a really long time I can only guess what it says this is yeah yeah I mean that just knowing Richard the way I knew him ... you knowing you imagine everybody else's online that means that you have something that you can learn from subject line you know that that it's it's yeah that's true it is true whether it's something that you know oftentimes some of our greatest teachers really do MRIS and that's a sign that it is a way in which you can point the finger back tears saw a you know because they're just a mere of something about yourself that you don't like the band and isn't that a healthy way the Lagardere Greg row it then I need went harder them am I not accepting of my software I don't like about myself you know 8 I am like so I like to use that as a barometer as you know of my own growth then and I tend to do that when I find myself really triggered by somebody you're super night I think alright game I'm not what what part of that person is really me and I just it's in much about arrives really don't well knowledge that right now my Camaro yeah nearer exactly 80 and because in a sense you know we are all mirrors of each other Iraq what you know I believe Paris pursed her watcher biz there to something that is not you can learn by their example and what's right and you can also learn by their example of what's wrong and I can say that my clients are hung up on not getting enough from their mom and your dad and your parents your they were something you know didn't go right after and they will then they touch you based on the example of what you didn't want to be and you can thank her that because you that's how you learn he didn't want to be like that things so they gave you a great example of how not to be and I think you know we can look at people that way we can thank them however they shot because we can say now while I can love you from a distance but no thank you I'm not going to necessarily put myself in your proximity very often yeah I have to be a round with everyone you know but you treat everyone with our offense of respect and kindness you know that that's just I think it at a base level what it means to be a good human being as in to prioritize being gentle and and crying over being on the opposite you know either have to be right every time that you're talking with somebody maybe choosing kind yes over being writers what's in order and certain conversations now and I think those people that live their lives with that with that a modicum amount of kindness and are hard and and in their words and their actions really are happy people and they live their lives with a lot of joy especially people who don't always I have to be right in a way it seems to me that a lot of what we're discussing tonight deals with taming the ego and again here's another one that we want to always be right or do we want to be happy should we let others be right most of the time yeah I mean I I think that's again it's it's like the whole include our way of living getting out of the way you know just like instead of like fighting just like step aside and let it all go past you I mean what's what's it mean for you to do the fight you know I mean that's what I think you have to ask yourself what's in accordance to the fight maybe it's just not an an okay here's there are times where I think you you need to stand up for what's right I do believe that like injustice situations there's times it's not always about stepping out of the way but route we know those times of arguments that are an important you know we know those times when you need to choose your battles with your kids and your your partner in you know you know we know those times in the office or in a boardroom or you know when it's just important to just let that comment go by you know I I've had some situations in my lifetime where I I couldn't I had to stand up for my family you know I had to say you will not treat us this way I you know I did go to the law you know that there are times where you you just you need to stand up for yourself that's not a that's not disrupted lots local small step situation you know but for the most part for you know living life and having great relationships with friends and with family members yeah I know like when not to go in a certain direction like for example my dad and I have very different political views you know this last election was really really hard because we didn't see eye to eye lottery what I needed I made it my so the strategy to just not my dad you know saying what he says and me just step away and say I'm not going there you know I don't need to be right with my dad I'm not gonna win that argument why would I go there why would I waste my energy and and you know to have that argument that just is not good I I know what the outcome is going to be alright and don't need to be right someone told me this years ago and I live by it in matters of put up in matters of opinion go with the flow in matters of principle stand like a rock and now I hear is an important one that requires a a lot of effort to attain patients why space is so important and how do we become more patient well you know patients is something I think is an art that I've had to learn my whole life it's time for I would say like as a as a matter of speaking I wasn't the most patient young person and I still am working on patients all the time I mean I think you know patience is a gallon into about becoming responsive to life and less reactive and even knowing that email life has its own flow like there's this on flow of of timing that's often happening and you know someone being surrendered to that and and maybe not being as types outcomes is the way to be patient you know one of the strategies that we've always talked about in our work is I expect to last and receive Maureen noted that when you have high expectations and outcomes it doesn't in this doesn't mean that you don't work or give your past or what should the bast out com it just means that you do your best and let go of the rest and you let life you know you always put your best foot forward you always give which you can tell like to make things work out to strive for your goals to strive for logging sired and result but then you like our and you know and that that's really the happiest way to be I mean if you're gonna you know make it about pursuing your purpose and your human potential and not so much about every single outcome because a lot of times you're gonna you're gonna receive the desired end result of something alot change or not and I think not spend a small surface about doing your best summoning go arrest and I think patience is like a muscle we have to exercise in order that you had to develop it IOC grow and I have a question that I like to get an answer on the other side because we have to do one of only break now as we continue to discuss aspects of life that need change in order to know for us to fully live realize how much of of this life we see go by well no we hold on to our ego I'm sure most people listening who may have had a disagreement with the love one you know we always think we're right and what we do we say ... let her or him apologize first I haven't done anything wrong which is probably what the other person is thinking too but isn't it sad that sometimes it's too late to make that phone call whether we wait until we can make the focal were you know write a letter or or make deficit to reach out and make things better should we be the first ones to act lovingly and and and reach out I'll give you an answer on the other side but tell our listeners how to buy this excellent book and all the other books yeah I think yeah just you can if you want to look at the picture came about our website WWW.don't sweat.com and we have all of the books there chill look at and then you just you know go to Amazon or Barnes and noble.and any other great book sellers will have our books and available in stock so that you know definitely go visit our website it's really beautiful and you can check out every single book and check out the body of our work and we are there as well gonna want to send a big thank you to my good friend Micka Aggie actually was recently reading the book and loved it and she asked me have you had you know Christine on your show so I had to make contact with you so Aggie is a huge fan of of yours and your husband's it and she helped me make this happen all green yeah he's paying some here with Kristen Carlson don't sweat the small stuff much more that you do not want to miss we come back this is Mel Fabregas and you're listening to very tasks don't go anywhere thanks for listening to part one of this very important very terse interview listen I nnova since you on his hand the it please //
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Veritas Special Report - Final Results on the Starchild Skull DNA Report
\\greetings to everyone around the world and your host Mel fabric as a very just radio.com and today we have a special report a few weeks ago I conducted an interview with retired registered nurse Melanie young Melanie is the legal owner what we have come to know as the Starchild skull the any results and upping completed during our last interview but I promised I would have mailed me back but the result became available DNA is the math of biology my goal is only one the truth we want to know if this call is human or not but for that Melanie is back to share those results hello Melanie and thanks for joining me today hello ma'am musketeer you my pleasure well as promised to the audience I wanted to bring you back once you have those results and before you say anything else we have been attacked by a few people and essentially they're saying that we are attacking Lloyd pilots could this I love the way at the beginning of the interview today okay then why are they saying that we're talking Lloyd I know that he spearheaded the project for a long time unfortunately he passed away but isn't this what Lloyd what it well I think Lloyd and I both wanted to finish the project combined out exactly what it was of new can read those Starchild book that he wrote and it's very clear he wanted the truth end of story and the truth is all that matters so I don't know why some people are uncomfortable that we are trying to do this Italy where with us today I think he would have wanted to find out if his skull was I hate to even use the word alien I don't know why this is become the word at the alien the Starchild let's just dive into the results well it's very clear we sent the demon over 2 of paleo demanding labs April 24 and the one that's when they received it so they didn't know whether where the tooth came from they just I just sent them the maxilla we never told them what the name of it was I mean it was a blind study so that means they didn't have an agenda either they just wanted the truth so they descended through all of their their little machines and everything and ... they found that the mother is haplogroups see which is the same as the are 2003 trace lasted now back in that day they had a hard time finding me nuclear DNA which is what tasks of bother in and that was basically the early stages of ancient DNA find election day and I so it makes sense that they might have had an issue with that but paleo is one of the top 10 I think of ancient DNA so why not send it to the top of the list of the lit top of the hour chain if you will and does so chase just made about now truth closely just made a phone call to them and somehow we got on the top of the list of testing that they were going to do so they also found that the mother was haplogroup see so we have you know to study saying it's the same and then they were able to find the fathers DNA and it turned out to be you well love grew just turned it then ... fathers TMA is okay haplogroup Q. so we know that with haplogroup Q. that these people came across the Bering land bridge